FTTP Packages BT

Hi guys,
We will be having FTTP available in the next few weeks, its currently in the final stages of its build, so not yet on the systems as its available,
what I would like to know is what packages do BT offer and what speed tiers,
I know with FTTC you can get 40/10, 80/20, but FTTP can manage more so,
Does anyone have any info on packages, prices and speed tiers?

Thanks.

For BT look at

Infinity 1 52/10
Infinity 2 80/20
Infinity 3 200/20 (may be 30 up)
Infinity 4 300/20 (may be 30 up)

On FTTP you can have Infinity 1, 2 3 or 4.

Infinit 1 and 2 are the same as FTTC, 55/10 and 80/20.

Infinity 3 is 200/20

infinity 4 is 300 down and either 20 or 30up, I can't recall.

Pricing wise, again Infinity 1 and 2 are the same. I believe Infinity 3 is around £42 a month and Infinity 4 is £53 a month.

Infinity 3 and 4 are 18 month contracts.

Edited by deleted (Tue 26-Apr-16 09:11:02)

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/isp/bt.html

Infinity 1 & 2 are identical for C and P, Infinity 3 and 4 are unique to FTTP and are all listed at http://www.thinkbroadband.com/isp/bt.html

Strangely when I put my details into the BT website (native FTTP) there's no option for Infinity 2. Jumps from 25gb download limited 1 to unlimited 3...

It's definitely there. Just checked again with a postcode that I know has FTTP available.

Thanks for the replys, will most likely take the 80/20 option, will post on here when its all been done and share the process/results.

(may be 30 up)

Yep, 330/30 is the current top banana.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

(may be 30 up)

Yep, 330/30 is the current top banana.

Don't BT Consumer stop at 330/20? Saves them a few quid; the extra 10Mb up is another fiver a month.

EDIT: Confirmed, Consumer is 330/20.

I did find this priceless gem though while researching:

Posted by GMAN99 over 3 years ago
To be fair this won't trouble Virgin (for now) because of the small footprint but if its offered on FTTPoD in the future (no reason why not) and the install prices come down Virgin won't be able to touch this

Yeah, cable won't be able to touch this.

Edited by deleted (Tue 26-Apr-16 19:09:06)

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

(may be 30 up)

Yep, 330/30 is the current top banana.

I don't know if you're aware of this but BT sell Infinity 4 as upto 300 down and upto 20 up.

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

I did find this priceless gem though while researching:

Posted by GMAN99 over 3 years ago

Err, over 3 years ago? lol

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

(may be 30 up)

Yep, 330/30 is the current top banana.

I don't know if you're aware of this but BT sell Infinity 4 as upto 300 down and upto 20 up.

Just like they sell Infinity 2 at 76 and 19.

In reply to a post by lee111s:

Just like they sell Infinity 2 at 76 and 19.

Not really "just like" is it?

Infinity 1 52 down - 95% of 55
Infinity 2 76 down - 95% of 80
Infinity 3 200 down - 90% of 220
Infinity 4 300 down - 90% of 330

I go by the 'sync rate' of the product I install .....

I just had an interesting live chat with BT about the upload speed on FTTP. They told me it's up to 20, but it's not guaranteed. I asked because the BT sales page doesn't mention the upload speed.

Can your customers see their 'sync' speeds?

The use of the future tense amused, as did that it was posted just in time for Openreach to raise install prices of FTTPoD.

At the time that was written cable was already doing 500Mb down, 50Mb up so could blow away 300/20 let alone match it going forward

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

At the time that was written cable was already doing 500Mb down, 50Mb up

You're saying that Virgin was offering 500 down / 50 up 3 years ago? Don't think so.

Can your customers see their 'sync' speeds?

Not as far as I know, I wonder if the wholesale speed tester shows a profile ? I shall endeavour to find out when next I get an opportunity.

I do know when I have had a chance to play around with a 330/30 circuit the upload was just that, 30 meg. Mind you the really impressive thing on that particular case was the punter recording 305 meg via speediest.net using an iPhone 6s and wifi.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

You're saying that Virgin was offering 500 down / 50 up 3 years ago? Don't think so.

Not what I wrote, as you know given you quoted it, but do carry on responding to yourself rather than what was written if it makes you happy

I suggest you re-read the bit that you thought was funny and you'll see it was about Virgin.

Virgin use the same hardware as other cable companies in Europe. The capability to deliver was there, in some areas without doing anything other than changing the limits on the tiers as the required channels were already in place.

That there was no business case is a different matter.

As I said it was more the certainty that it couldn't happen in the future that amused. If BT drop prices on FTTPoD and deploy it more widely VM can't match it. They can, and have, while FTTPoD has become more expensive, can't be ordered, and FTTP is still very slowly being released, mostly with public subsidy.

Perhaps the VM comment was a bit of an in-joke and went over the heads of people who don't know much about cable or how VM's network stood at that time, in which case my bad and you were right to call me on it.

It also wasn't really necessary, it was out of order, so apologies due to GMAN.

Edited by deleted (Wed 27-Apr-16 08:47:32)

Trying guaranteeing any speed across an Internet connection, over a leased line between two known points guarantees exist but once you hit shared backhaul it becomes a lot harder.

I suggest people (not just one person) back down, and go away and have a calming cup of tea.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

I suggest people (not just one person) back down, and go away and have a calming cup of tea.

Thanks Andrew, already calmed. I was a tool and the man, rightly, called me on it.