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I've done some searches on the forums but not found much recent advice. I also made the following post in the DSL Hardware forum, which once I have posted this I shall ask to be locked. A bit ago various Billions were getting good reports, less so ASUS and I ended up unhappy with my ASUS RT-N66U. I forget what went wrong but I ended up back using my Plusnet 482N. The modem in each case being an unlocked HG612.
I'm still using the HG612 with a ZyXel VMG1312-B10A, supplied pre-configured by AAISP. I discovered soon after migrating to them using it that I wasn't getting a WAN IP address allocated by it, despite having a /48 on my account.
I had far more important things on my mind, and the IPv4 connection has run almost flawlessly, so I did nothing about it.
On Sunday I did in fact have an online chat with AAISP support, and discovered that this is a known fault with that router, and that there is little prospect of it being fixed. I was not right chuffed!
So I'd like now to get myself sorted out as per the Subject. When I was on the Plusnet trial I had dualstack running perfectly, until they started installing gateways that didn't do IPv6, (??? crazy or what?), and it became very hard to avoid being on one of those.
Any recommendations please? 5Ghz WiFi not a top priority though welcome. Huawei 288 cabinet. If the router also has a WAN port that could be useful if I find the modem component not as good as the HG612, but I wouldn't put it as an essential. That forum seems fairly moribund, and I think most discussion on this subject has been in this one. So I'm trying again here. I received two useful replies, so copying them to here a bit lower to save you having to read through other stuff there.
The thread rapidly went into stuff about three-box solutions with Raspberry Pi boxes and pfSense kit and so on, in which I am not interested.
The replies you need to see:- caffn8me
The Draytek 2760 and 2860 series routers have VDSL2 modems, are Openreach MCT approved and support simultaneous IPv4 and IPv6 with all firmwares. They're rock steady too.
You could purchase the 2760 without wifi and use the existing ASUS in access point mode.
Michael_Chare
Listen to the talks at the recent IPV6 conference. I think it was the BT person who mentioned something about Netgear and some other routers which customers have connected to their network. He also said that home routers were the hardest part of the network to get right. I thank them both.
The 2860 price made me blink, I admit. The 2760 might technically suit but still leaves me with a two-box solution. Which is not a major drawback, having had such for at least five years. Michael's suggestion I haven't yet followed up as I might have to read a lot to find the references he makes and the topic is mainly about IPv6 itself. Plus I don't see a BT speaker. I'm assuming he means this conference.
I'd appreciate some views on other kit I could look into, thanks.
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/14463kbps @ 600m. - BQM
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It was Neil J. McRae of BT at this IET conference about 4 and 1/2 minutes from start. His email address is on the slides.
He just said they had customers with Netgear and Draytek routers working with IPV6 as well as their own hubs.
He might well respond to an email if your wanted to ask what models worked best.
Michael Chare
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Thanks. I have to go out soon but will check that out tomorrow  .
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I know that my Billion 6300+HG612 supports dual-stack IPv6 and is stable while doing so. I went through three or four routers before I found one that worked properly. But that was back when I was with IDNet. I've been with Plusnet for two and a half years now and they still don't support IPv6. By the time they do (if they ever figure out how) my kit will probably have died of old age and been replaced.
I would be reasonably confident in saying that any Billion solution should work. I very nearly bought a new 8800 r2 last month when I thought I might be going back to IDNet.
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Brackley, UK
Edited by Andrue (Fri 25-Nov-16 21:06:24)
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My setup (also on AAISP) is an HG612 and an EdgeRouter ER-LIte 3. Wireless in the house is via a single Unifi AP-AC-Lite, with the option of adding a second one as my extension completes. I'm running the Unifi control software on a Raspberry Pi.
I was using a Cisco WRT-320N as an AP before the Unifi and I'm still using one in the garden office.
In my view, it's better to separate the router and WAP functions as this allows more flexibility in the AP positioning but YMMV...
No issues with dual stack IPv4/v6, in fact I've no idea which is being used most of the time.
Edited by ferretuk (Sat 26-Nov-16 19:57:05)
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Thanks, yes, but I'm partly wanting to see if more modern modems in the combo boxes are better than the dated HG612 . I see several posters getting better speeds after replacing theirs.
Just buying a modem doesn't solve the IPv6 problem.
There's only me using the system, with wireless laptop, occasionally another laptop that is wired sitting next to the router, plus iPad, mobile phone with occasionally another but both normally doing nothing in particular - mainly sync'ng google diary and DropBox across everything, and wireless printer rarely used.
So overall it's no big deal. But I do want to get dualstack .
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/14463kbps @ 600m. - BQM
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so if I understand you right the reason you looking for a new router (not modem) is because the zyxel doesnt have its own wan ipv6, which I guess you want to use with tbb pings.
I got a gut feeling what might be the issue, I found out with sky's ipv6 system, the router doesnt get assigned a wan ipv6 address directly, instead after its been allocated a prefix from the isp, it then allocates itself a ipv6 from that prefix. So my guess is the zyxel isnt doing that second stage.
A few of us on kitz are investing in pfsense boxes, ronski managed to find a 4 port one for a nice price, mine is 2 ports but I am considering adding another 2 via a mini pcie addon card.
Asus routers work dual stack, but the success will be highly dependent on the firmware used on it, asus ipv6 code changes have been really crazy from one firmware to the next.
I wouldnt worry about the vdsl modem, just run it bridged with the router you choose behind it.
Edited by Chrysalis (Sun 27-Nov-16 03:53:21)
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Hi Bob. Not sure if I can help, because as you know, my AA Zyxel is totally unstable on my line, whereas my TP-Link TD-W9980 is rock solid 10 Mbps slower, but still no IPv6 reported on test sited despite set up in the router.
Now at long last the point of this post. You saw my Zyxel getting a 10/10 full iPv6 report from test sites as initially supplied, so it can do IPv6. But after a re-sync/update it no longer can. While digging around on our AA control page, I have found a button to click to reset or re-order router settings, though you may need to be in one box mode, as the latest comment on my page, is "Sync Pass:GTC_FTTC_SERVICE_0001 GEA service test completed and no fault found but unable to check for customer equipment connected to modem." - I take this as a reference to using my TP-Link and not the Zyxel alone. I have asked in the latest contact if I re-install the ZyXel, can they come in and set it up properly again and block G.INP which is sending it crazy. Sorry if this waffle is OT, but thought the reset and reorder settings button might help you re IPv6.
See the difference. Blue line was a try with OR modem and retail Homehub4R - Could not hack it at all! http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/ee6f211511a...
Edited by professor973 (Sun 27-Nov-16 12:54:30)
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You're right about my main requirement Chrysalis , but I do also want to see if the modem could be bettered. Things have surely moved on in five years of UK mass market usage.
I may try removing the HG612 and putting the ZyXel into bridge mode with the ASUS behind it. That did the dual stack fine on the PN trial. I forget what failed though - I took it out and reverted to the PN 482N.
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/14463kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Edited by RobertoS (Sun 27-Nov-16 11:07:49)
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I came across an AAISP setting yesterday Alan that lets you download your AAISP router setup. It's in the online router settings area rather than the GUI settings, so you can change their end and download it. Thus preventing any download they make overwriting your changes. Unless they deliberately change those of course.
No reason you shouldn't be able to download it "as is", that I could see, effectively perhaps a "near-factory" reset. Might be worth a try for you.
Edit - just realised that download feature is what you were referring to. More of a "push" job of course.
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/14463kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Edited by RobertoS (Sun 27-Nov-16 11:17:11)
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I'm looking up routers that do 'native IPv6 out of the box' - Seems D-Link were involved at the very beginning.
https://www.sixxs.net/wiki/Routers
https://www.cnet.com/news/top-5-ipv6-ready-wireless-...
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Zyxel back in line - Result after configuration request!
http://postimg.org/image/570jezmnv/
Edit - Two mins later re-sync and back to square 1 - A total load of [censored] we have paid for!
http://postimg.org/image/vgllxs8l7/
Back to square one in more ways than one!
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...
Don't think anyone can sort this line when on BTW!
Edited by professor973 (Sun 27-Nov-16 17:57:50)
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I'm looking up routers that do 'native IPv6 out of the box' - Seems D-Link were involved at the very beginning. One of the routers I tried while at IDNet was a D-Link. It kept crashing. Maybe not statistically significant but I still have hard feelings about that and I think it relates to the quality of support I experienced. I don't remember any details but I know that to this day (some four or five years later) I refuse to buy anything from D-Link.
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Edited by Andrue (Sun 27-Nov-16 17:43:32)
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That's OK, Just ordered a Fritzbox.
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Notice the TP-Link TD-W9980 was mentioned earlier in the thread.
Some of us have been talking on the BT Community Forum recently about TP-LInk support for IPv6 in their modems/routers. The position seems to be that TP-Link devices don't support the /56 prefix delegated dynamic addresses used by BT and, I believe, most other UK ISPs. (I think Andrews & Arnold use /48 prefix.)
TP-Link have apparently acknowledged that their devices only support /64 prefix delegation. They've said that they won't be updating the TD-W9980 firmware to solve this problem. We're still trying to pin them down in relation to more recent models (e.g. Archer VR600 and VR2600).
So TP-Link devices don't currently look too promising if you're interested in IPv6 functionality.
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Thanks prinknash .
A & A allocate a /48 to a customer, and a /64 within that per customer line. I'm no IPv6 expert yet, but that looks OK to me?
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15448kbps @ 600m. - BQM
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RobertoS - I'd be surprised if your IPv6 expertise didn't exceed mine!
I only mentioned A&A as an example of what I understood to be the practice of UK ISPs. The issue arose in the context of some BT Infinity customers trying, and failing, to get IPv6 connections using their TP-Link devices. Those who understand these things a lot better than I do have apparently established that TP-Link don't (currently?) support the necessary /56 prefix delegated dynamic addresses.
Personally, I'm still not sure how concerned I ought to be about having a modem/router that can't handle IPv6. Although it's obviously irritating if it says it can and then can't because it hasn't actually been tested against what UK ISPs provide.
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In response to this post...
All I want is to run the tbb BQM on IPv6. I have tried setting two different routers as per AAISP instructions and the address still changes every few hours.
I'd like to know how you define the "first" address, which I think I have tried, and why you say on the LAN, not the WAN.
As has been said, different ISPs have different implementations. My router gets a 2001:8B0:1111... address on it's WAN port and I've manually configured the LAN port to advertise my /64 prefix. I've statically configured the router LAN to be <My Prefix>::1
I think you can do the same in Network Setting>Home Netwok>LAN Setup (if I read the manual correctly?) Set LAN IPv6 Address to Static and enter an address within your allocation i.e Prefix::1 and then put your prefix address and length in the ULA IPv6 Address Setup boxes.
As I hinted, I'm no expert, and this may be nonsense!
[EDIT] I've just read the AAISP IPv6 support page and confirm the the last bytes of my WAN IP address are the same as my IPv4 IP address so, in my case, this would appear to be static. I guess it isn't for you?
Perhaps you can safely ignore me!
Edited by ferretuk (Fri 02-Dec-16 11:03:40)
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Just to say I read your post a while ago but have been very busy. Thanks as well for switching to this thread.
I'll be working on the problem later, bearing in mind both your posts, but had already tried the AAISP pages you refer to plus others more hidden. I'm sure it can be solved, but might have to be something done at their end.
Setting the last parts to the hex equivalent of the IPv4 static WAN address doesn't seem to work for me, whatever I put preceding it. Depending on the router, it can show it in the connection settings after a reconnection but the actual is different - and changes at non-regular intervals  .
I'll keep the thread updated of course.
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59998/15108kbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Hope you get it sorted and that I haven't confused things.
I don't think you need to (or should) be making changes on the WAN side. It's the LAN that's yours, hence suggesting you statically configure the router LAN interface. Remember that all IPv6 addresses are public so pinging the LAN side (or even a statically configured device on your network) with the BQM gives the same information as pinging the WAN interface.
Edited by ferretuk (Fri 02-Dec-16 14:25:17)
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Ah - now I understand why you said to use the LAN rather than the usual WAN. Which I might try but has also given me another idea.
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59998/15108kbps @ 600m. - BQM
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I seem to have it sorted. Incidentally using the supplied ZyXel in modem/router mode rather than the supplied router mode fed from the HG612.
I did an ipconfig /all at a command prompt and the relevant part is:-
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| IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:8b0:aaaa:0:0123:1234:2345:3456(Preferred)
Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2001:8b0:aaaa:0:4567:5678:6789:7890(Preferred)Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : bbbb::0123:1234:2345:3456%3(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred)Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 03 December 2016 14:42:12Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 03 December 2016 16:12:13
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : bbbb::zzzz:zzzz:zzzz:zzzz%3 192.168.1.1 |
aaaa is the WAN /48
bbbb is the LAN part that the router self-sets, replacing the aaaa above. Note the double colon following it giving in effect a single 0.
bbbb-zzzz is the address to log into the router itself on the LAN (the %3 not needed). Again a double colon.
The "Temporary IPv6 Address" is what outside checkers such as the thinkbroadband "What is my IP address" shows and tests 10/10. That is what, in my ignorance previously, what I was giving to the BQM and also trying to make "static" in my router config - that being the sort of thing that the Help docs say to do on other routers.
As described, the IP address seen outside is the "Temporary" one that keeps changing. What I did last night was overwrite the "Temporary" one thinkbroadband defaults to with Line 1.
That has maintained the BQM I now have in my sig, despites several changes to the publicly presented (Temporary) address.
Early this afternoon is where I switched off for about 20 seconds, then back on, and everything fired up perfectly. Contrary to everything I've read about it losing IPv6 capability on a reboot, (as a ZyXel bug that won't be fixed), and needing a complete re-flash (remote download from AAISP) to get it back.
So all in all I'm quite chuffed. Looks as if I don't need a new modem/router.
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15336kbps @ 600m. - IPv4 BQM IPv6 BQM
Edited by RobertoS (Sat 03-Dec-16 18:04:34)
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Glad you got it sorted! Take a look at this for a brief explanation as to why the changing temporary address is setup by some operating systems.
I think you can also determine the IPv6 address of your router's LAN side by using traceroute as it will be the first hop address
'tracert -6 www.google.co.uk'
You can then use this as the target for your BQM, assuming it doesn't change (or set a a static address as mentioned earlier)
Edited by ferretuk (Sat 03-Dec-16 16:23:00)
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I got the idea from what you suggested about pinging the LAN but didn't want to do that as it shouldn't be necessary. I'm now pinging a WAN address as explained.
As for setting the IPv6 address as static, that doesn't seem to work on the ZyXel (and possibly the ASUS). It just gets ignored. Though once I had it working as now, I did replace the static IP address in the ZyXel settings with the one that is now used in my BQM and is retained on bootup.
That's purely to prevent confusion in the future. Whether or not things will still work if I return to the default "Request IP Address" I didn't think of checking.
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15336kbps @ 600m. - IPv4 BQM IPv6 BQM
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I think you're terminology is still a little awry and perhaps this has contributed to the confusion?
AAISP allocate a /48 per customer and then, by default, a /64 per connection. That /64 is for you to use on your network, just as a block of routeable IPv4 addresses would be (if you have them). The router presents this /64 to your network and consumes an address to do so (on it's LAN port).
The router WAN port is on AAISPs network is and is given an address by them (as per the details on their support pages) that is not part of your /64 (or /48). Think of this like the WAN side being in a different subnet in IPv4 land.
Your BQM is not pointing at a 'WAN' address - It's pointing at a public IPv6 adddress on your network. In this case, it's your PC rather than your router.
Edited by ferretuk (Sat 03-Dec-16 18:08:18)
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Ah! Major typing error in my earlier post! So I have confused you. I shall correct it in a few minutes.
Suffice to say, I have a laptop, and iPad and an Android phone connecting. Overnight they were all turned off. The BQM is pinging the address on Line 1. The address detected by the tbb and placed by default into the BQM is Line 2. My obfuscation in Line 2 is wrong.
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15336kbps @ 600m. - IPv4 BQM IPv6 BQM
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Detail post corrected - I hope .
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15336kbps @ 600m. - IPv4 BQM IPv6 BQM
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So are you using LAN to mean Link Local (i.e. an FE80 address)? and WAN to mean a public IPv6 address (2001 etc etc)?
You later say that you took the entry from Line 1 (the PC's IPv6 address) and entered as a static IP in the router. In other words you configured the router LAN port with the same address as your PC? Has the PC address changed as a result?
What does ipconfig say now and what is the address on hop 1 of an IPv6 traceroute?
To explain my setup (and understanding)
I have a /48 that starts 2001:8b0:xxx
From that I use a /64 2001:8b0:xxx:yyyy
My router LAN address is manually set to 2001:8b0:xxx:yyyy::1 i.e
2001:8b0:xxx:yyyy:0000:0000:0000:0001
My PC has an address eg
2001:8b0:xxx:yyyy:1234:1234:1234:1234
This PC address is the equivalent of your Line 1 (as I've ignored any temporary addresses).
A BQM could be setup to either of the addresses above but, of course, would fail when the PC is turned off.
Note that my router's WAN port has an address of the format shown in the support page and is not part of my /48
Does this help?
Edited by ferretuk (Sat 03-Dec-16 18:25:01)
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No! No! No!
Far too convoluted . I have basically not set anything in my router config that matters except a static IPv6 address that has always been ignored by the system since. It never appeared anywhere after its first use where I copied it from tbb's "What is my IP". Within hours my visible IP address changed and the BQM stopped working. That was the problem I have solved much more simply than yourself.
So lets start again, using a single capital letter per hex block.
I have A:B:C::/48 and A:B:C:D::/64
Note that I have never ever seen D appear anywhere.
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8 | IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : A:B:C:0:F:G:H:I(Preferred)
Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : A:B:C:0:J:K:L:M(Preferred)Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : Z::F:G:H:I%3(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2(Preferred)Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 03 December 2016 14:42:12Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 03 December 2016 18:26:06
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : Z::N:O:P:Q%3 |
The Temporary IPv6 Address is the one visited websites see. It changes frequently, as in several times a day. I assume that is some sort of security defence against DDOs attacks and the like, as within hours of a site acquiring it, it ceases to exist/go anywhere.
What I also noticed was that the IPv6 address in the first line, and the Default Gateway at the bottom, never change. The default gateway is the one used to access by telnet or browser. Whereupon building on you idea of pinging a device but not wanting it to be something attached to the router, I used the A:B:C:0:F:G:H address to overwrite whatever the tbb BQM defaulted to, which was of course my Temp address at the time.
Job done. No setting up my own /64 address range and fixed-allocating any addresses. I just took what was presented, once I understood it, and used it.
Then, hours after I got it working, and after a switch off and on of the router which worked, I put the pingable address into the fixed IP address field replacing the one that gets ignored, purely so as not to confuse things in the future. I assume it is still ignored.
What I may try for fun in a couple of days is remove that and set the IPv6 address acquisition back to Automatic. I get the feeling the top line is preset by AA in a similar way to the static IPv4 address. I shall also probably find out when I put the ZyXel into bridge mode and feed my ASUS WAN port from it.
I have an unrelated problem to ask AA about first. I want the line stable for now instead of me messing about any more .
As an incidental point, when examining the Info on the Network Map page of the ZyXel, I see it gets the SLAAC IPv6 address of attached kit wrong.
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15336kbps @ 600m. - IPv4 BQM IPv6 BQM
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What I may try for fun in a couple of days is remove that and set the IPv6 address acquisition back to Automatic. That killed it, so setting to static is needed. So I put it back. Thinks - I could try it static with blanks. That could work, depending on how they have the account set up.
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15314kbps @ 600m. - IPv4 BQM IPv6 BQM
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Probably what is killing my zyXel and Fritz. Both run IPv6 initially and then die.
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A setting I missed. It may be irrelevant but was picked up from the instructions for some other router.
When I entered the A:B:C:0:F:G:H:I address, (note I typo-omitted the :I at the end previously), I also set the Prefix length to 128. The whole string in other words.
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15378kbps @ 600m. - IPv4-BQM IPv6-BQM
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Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : A:B:C:0:J:K:L:M(Preferred) |
Both of these addresses point to your computer, not the router.
* IPv6 Address is your computer's static address, and is what you'd connect to (or point a DNS hostname to) if you were running a server on your machine. On some operating systems it is based on your network interface's MAC address, but on Windows (and the latest macOS) it is randomly generated on first connection to the network (so will change if you reinstall your OS).
* Temporary IPv6 Address is what your computer uses when it makes outbound connections. The temporary address changes regularly as a way of increasing privacy. Your computer might have more than one of these as it can keep old addresses around for established connections and take a new one for new connections.
Using IPv6 Address in the TBB BQM will work, but only when your PC is switched on and connected to your network.
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Wrong.
As I have already pointed out.
See my IPv6 BQM - which has one or two breaks due to me experimenting as posted recently above. All my kit apart from the router was off between at least 4am and 9:20am. I don't know what the latency buidup was to ~6:35am, but it was external and caused a re-sync.
Fact!
The fact that the AAISP IPv6 setup isn't the same as whatever you have experienced is completely irrelevant to me. It is now working 24/7 quite independently of there being anything on the LAN.
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15378kbps @ 600m. - IPv4-BQM IPv6-BQM
Edited by RobertoS (Sun 04-Dec-16 16:16:37)
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Re-reading your post i think i see what you've done.
You've managed to successfully bodge things by taking your Windows machine's static address and assigning it to your router. Windows should be smart enough to claim a different address when it sees the one it wants has been taken by something else.
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It does begin to sound that way . Something like ferretuk was describing but very hard to follow.
I've also now turned on a second Windows machine which is wired to the router. That will help cross-diagnostic when I've had a bite to eat.
In theory I should be able to but a basically random set of hex into the last three of four entries and that should work? Though I tried that very early on, in no doubt a rubbish way, and it didn't take. I shall try it once I have shut my stomach up.
Any suggestions otherwise please? And sorry for getting ratty  - it was two people telling me BQM wouldn't work when the computer was turned off that was so obviously untrue got to me.
Perhaps you could wait until I report back on what I try within the next hour , see if I can sort it myself.
Edit - Oh, the SLAAC IP address for this computer, (the one the listings are from), as shown by the router's network map is completely different again.
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15378kbps @ 600m. - IPv4-BQM IPv6-BQM
Edited by RobertoS (Sun 04-Dec-16 17:24:01)
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Right - progress.
See in my sig. What I have done is not as per the AA instructions, as the vital one is ambiguous. In that they give a generic example with dummy entries for last two fields of the /64 prefix. I have used the full /64 prefix supplied, then codged up the second /64. The confusing bit is that the fourth field of the /64 prefix I have never seen used.
I think perhaps my final /64 should be ffff:0: as shown, then my IPv4 address converted - which I worked out a couple of days ago. Wondering whether or not to try it, or simply ask them tomorrow.
Even simpler, as any config changes I make can get lost if the push a firmware update, (obviously I expect I could request them to consolidate my changes into their master copy for me), would be simply to ascertain my true presumably static IPv6 WAN address for the router and use that for BQM. Just like a static IPv4.
Probably much of a muchness, though maybe more secure with what I have done.
???? I hope the "Dead" one is dead! Ahhhh - got it, pinging this computer now. (I haven't disabled it yet, so you can compare old and new). I'm going out for about half an hour so will turn it off and confirm.
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15378kbps @ 600m. - IPv4-BQM, Dead IPv6-BQM, New IPv6 BQM
Edited by RobertoS (Sun 04-Dec-16 19:27:22)
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Just what I've been trying to say...
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But I haven't needed to perform anything like the rigmarole that you suggested. Only one setting is needed - the change to a static rather than automatic address assignment. Finding the address to put in there was the problem - as I'm using the built-in modem I don't see the assigned WAN address.
And for sure I wasn't pinging my computer.
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 60000/15378kbps @ 600m. - IPv4-BQM, Dead IPv6-BQM, New IPv6 BQM
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My very first contribution to this thread suggested that you assign a static address to your router. Subsequent posts have tried to explain why and to correct some if your apparent misunderstandings.
If this has appeared to be a rigmarole then I've failed and, frankly, I won't bother again!
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My very first contribution to this thread suggested that you assign a static address to your router. Subsequent posts have tried to explain why and to correct some if your apparent misunderstandings.
If this has appeared to be a rigmarole then I've failed and, frankly, I won't bother again! My router gets a 2001:8B0:1111... address on it's WAN port and I've manually configured the LAN port to advertise my /64 prefix. I've statically configured the router LAN to be <My Prefix>::1
I think you can do the same in Network Setting>Home Netwok>LAN Setup (if I read the manual correctly?) Set LAN IPv6 Address to Static and enter an address within your allocation i.e Prefix::1 and then put your prefix address and length in the ULA IPv6 Address Setup boxes.
As I hinted, I'm no expert, and this may be nonsense! It is.
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Better than watching the fools lantern this !
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Oh I'm still messing with the BQM  . Having got it completely independent of the LAN I want it cleaner still. Which is wjy the New BQM in my sig is temporarily also disabled.
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Latest BQM now in sig, previous one disabled, previously disabled one deleted from sig but still available from earlier links. For now. In case I go back to it.
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I really have no idea why you've taken offence at my attempts to help. Eventually you've entered a static address for your router LAN port as suggested. In my case I used <My Prefix>::1, you've chosen a much more complicated address.*
The section about then entering the prefix and subnet size was taken directly from the manual for your router. If this stage wasn't necessary then take it up with Zyxel!
At the end of the day I tried to help but your reaction really makes me wonder why I bothered. For the record I never questioned the working of your BQM - I merely pointed out that you set it up to ping your PC but then configured the router to be on the same address (creating a duplicate IP). Hopefully your PC moved to a different address so this configuration error didn't cause a problem...
*Actually, after re-reading the thread I'm not actually sure which address you have used as you still seem to be confused between the AAISP 2001:8b0:1111... address for the WAN side of your router and your LAN side /64 which will be 2001.8b0:???:????... but hey ho!
Edited by ferretuk (Sun 04-Dec-16 23:27:53)
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Meanwhile my flake AA supplied router refuses to work behind the OR router. Set to Ethernet Wan but refuses to access the internet. So angrily pulled the modem to router Ethernet and stuffed the DSL line back into the zyXel and instant internet with the router still set to Ethernet Wan! Left it that way and behaving since. This router really is a bag of snakes. Even if it wasn't' the IPv6 won't work with any router. Tomorrow will be interesting as I see my fault likely to be closed at lunchtime.
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Because, perhaps unintentionally, you have seemed to preach, and your solution though a decent workaround is not the correct one.
1) Your first post in this thread (Sat 26-Nov-16 19:51:38) was extremely out of kilter with the Subject and everything I had posted in the OP and replies to others.
2) Your explanations are so convoluted they are impossible to follow unless the person reading already knows the answer.
3) You describe having done various things in your LAN setup in order to ping a LAN address.You insist I should be doing things in the LAN setup of my router "Network Setting>Home Netwok>LAN Setup (if I read the manual correctly?)". (Fri 02-Dec-16 10:42:41)
At no point have I done anything at all in the "Home Network" page. I want my router pinged on a WAN address - but using the ZyXel in the desired single-box setup it is not visible.
5) Your post in MCM/s thread again goes on and on about the LAN. In reply to that, yes - I expect the WAN side to be static. Which you yourself have discovered it is.
6) Again in this thread Hope you get it sorted and that I haven't confused things.
I don't think you need to (or should) be making changes on the WAN side. It's the LAN that's yours, hence suggesting you statically configure the router LAN interface. Remember that all IPv6 addresses are public so pinging the LAN side (or even a statically configured device on your network) with the BQM gives the same information as pinging the WAN interface. I completely disagree.
Yes, one can mess around as you have done, and I genuinely admire your arriving at the solution you have, but it is not the best solution. It is a router WAN address issue. With your setup you could see what it is. With the one-box setup I couldn't (so far as I know).
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It is clear once you get to the right place in the AA help pages that there is a static WAN address. Assuming I have converted my static IPv4 correctly to give the final /32 then the final BQM in my sig is now using that. It is even possible that because of that I can reset the static setting in my WAN setup to obtain an IP address automatically. Because it should be the fixed one that I have worked out.
Note I did thank you some time ago for giving me an idea how to achieve what I wanted - I just couldn't accept your solution and still don't. Even though it works for you and would work for me. So yes, you helped and I thank you for that.
When I try going back to automatic IPv6 acquisition, if the BQM continues to work then the only changes made on my router since delivery from AA will be setting it to dual-stack modem/router mode rather than WAN-fed IPv4 router. All I needed was the static IPv6 address.
Edited by RobertoS (Mon 05-Dec-16 00:03:00)
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Ah, finally the penny drops! Your posts about entering the IP address obtained by your PC into the router config led me to think that you were setting it in the network setting I pointed you at, not in the WAN section of the router Further references to calculating addresses within your /64 just compounded the issue!
You are absolutely correct that pinging the WAN address is more elegant and I could change my BQM to do this instead. At the point I set mine up I did not know that the WAN address was static. The only caveat to this is that should AAISP change the address scheme for some reason (and I can't see why they would!) it will break of course.
There *should* be no need for you to change the router from automatic address setting on the WAN as the IP address allocated is per the description on the support site. In fact, if it does stop working you must have calculated the address incorrectly but I suspect that this won't be the case as I think you'd lose IPv6 connectivity as your /64 wouldn't be routed to you if it were wrong? In any event, as with IPv4, statically assigning the WAN address is a 'bad thing' 
[Edit] I see from info in another thread more info regarding the bug with the Zyxel router you mentioned in your first post affecting possible intermittent loss of IPv6 with this router. In this case, AAISP do suggest making the WAN address statis as a workaround.
Edited by ferretuk (Mon 05-Dec-16 10:05:55)
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Just to wind this up really, and thanks to all for their advice. It all added up to my finding the solution.
The WAN IPv6 address is dynamic one from the router point of view, but fixed by the ISP DHCP. (As per Plusnet and AAISP "static" IPv4 addresses). Basically it is nothing at all to do with the customer's allocated /48 and /64 IPv6 addresses.
It is a fixed, the same for all customers, /32 prefix followed by the last 32 bits being their "static" IPv4 address for that line converted to hex. There is no need to set this in the router. Just obtain from the ISP as normal.
Regarding my main question - a combined mode/router to suit, in the end I plumped for a Billion 8800NL R2, following some disastrous experiments with various combinations including a new Draytek Vigor 130 feeding (at different times) the ZyXel set in router mode and my Asus RT-N66U.
That experimenting knocked me down, in three steps, to a 45Mbps banding from my original 60Mbps banding.
The final drop in fact occurred about 10am the morning after I installed the Billion. That held that night, and the following night rose straight back up to 55Mbps banding. Where it has now been ever since. And no doubt will be for some time. I did one power cycle a few days ago, just to see what happened. Nothing changed.
> xdslctl info --show
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 14451 Kbps, Downstream rate = 64496 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 14466 Kbps, Downstream rate = 54999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 9.3 5.9
Attn(dB): 18.9 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 13.6 7.4
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 26
B: 227 237
M: 1 1
T: 0 64
R: 12 16
S: 0.1319 0.5233
L: 14562 3883
D: 4 1
I: 240 127
N: 240 254
Q: 4 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 132 0
TxQueue: 33 0
G.INP Framing: 18 0
G.INP lookback: 31 0
RRC bits: 0 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 122 -6
B: 0 0
M: 2 0
T: 2 0
R: 16 0
S: 8.0000 0.0000
L: 32 0
D: 1 0
I: 32 0
N: 32 0
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 190450
OHFErr: 0 20
RS: 850535572 4014547
RSCorr: 238903 283
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 28297213 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 226377214 0
RSCorr: 0 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 131849514 0
rtx_c: 12090 0
rtx_uc: 0 0
G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 5 0
minEFTR: 54996 0
errFreeBits: 381343978 0
Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 829311163 0
Data Cells: 63174695 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0
Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0
ES: 0 19
SES: 0 0
UAS: 28 28
AS: 454581
Bearer 0
INP: 51.00 0.00
INPRein: 1.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 8.40
OR: 0.01 30.45
AgR: 55120.28 14496.97
Bearer 1
INP: 2.00 0.00
INPRein: 2.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 16.06 0.01
OR: 63.75 0.01
AgR: 63.75 0.01
Bitswap: 210766/218860 970/973
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 54999/14466Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6
Edited by RobertoS (Tue 10-Jan-17 17:49:31)
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On my Asus RT-AC68U running Merlin, ( not an option on all in one units) I never even noticed IPV6 kick in with BT infinity it was seamless.
I agree PFsense is a great way to go for the ultimate in responsiveness and for a fully fire walled connection going forward especially when 100mbps+ is the norm. but it's ether impractical or too expensive to have a mini pc in a nice router sized box. and your always likely to be running a modem, and maybe a 3rd box for the best wireless performance with this. it's just too impractical for most. Hopefully good 1 box solutions will come when 300mbps + connections become the norm.
For others that haven't found their solution yet, the main this is when your experimenting keep using the same modem plugged in and and keeping the DSL sync, and only play with the router. only switch to a combined modem router when you happy after testing it using Ethernet wan to that modem that never needed to resync. That way you can avoid DLM screwing with your connection. 1 or 2 retrains a day shouldn't have too much impact but if you have alot of noise in your area it may just trigger DLM intervention, it's safer to avoid it if you can.
On an ECI cab, i never used to have issue with broadcom modems, I'm now getting enough errors that a broadcom modem will result in interleaving and much slower speeds within a 2 weeks. I need a lantiq based modem like the ECI-r openreach modem and the lower error counts to keep the max speeds and stay interleave free.
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my pfsense unit even tho has 16x the ram and 32x the cpu power of my ac68 is smaller and uses less power.
However I do still use the ac68 as a wireless access point and managed switch, but I am not a person bothered by using multiple units, my setups going back have often been like that.
Right now I got
billion 8800nl in bridge mode as my modem
pfsense box as firewall and routing box
ac68 as WAP and gigabit switch
samknows box for ofcom testing but also serves as a gigabit switch.
Size order from smallest to biggest
8800nl
pfsense unit - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01GBHCHDI/
samknows box
ac68
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I agree PFsense is a great way to go for the ultimate in responsiveness and for a fully fire walled connection going forward especially when 100mbps+ is the norm. but it's ether impractical or too expensive to have a mini pc in a nice router sized box. and your always likely to be running a modem, and maybe a 3rd box for the best wireless performance with this. it's just too impractical for most. Hopefully good 1 box solutions will come when 300mbps + connections become the norm.
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Personally, I like the "do one thing well" approach. with multiple boxes.
On the pfSense front, at my mother's home I am about to replace an ALIX i386 mini-ITX box (because pfSense are dropping i386 support at 2.4) with a Netgate SG1000. This is tiny - about the size of a pack of cigarettes. LAN and WAN ports, built in serial to USB adapter (access it with RealTerm or similar), plus a USB OTG port. Bought from Amica for £172.80.
I do admit that something as complicated and powerful as a real firewall does need more networking knowledge than the average home user, but most TBB and Kitz users would probably be able to cope.
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Adrian
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..although having moved to IDNet my 8800NL R2 is refusing to support IPv6 on the WAN at present :-/
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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
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All the ISPs seem to handle things differently. Did you have IPv6 running on Plusnet?
Did you have the Billion with Plusnet or is it IDNet-supplied?
I've just been reading through the IDNet version of the 8800NL R2 setup instructions and they look a complete mess. With very little mention I could see of IPv6. Very confusing usage of the term "bridge mode" and loads of talk about your separate firewall device.
Very confusing altogether. What IPv6 allocation details do they give you. A /48 block, a /64 block or what?
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 63679/13080Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6Edited by RobertoS (Tue 06-Jun-17 19:56:06)
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I didn't have IPv6 on Plusnet. I agree about the mess of instructions. I can't even find an official config for using a separate modem. I mean it's working..for IPv4 As far as I can tell I'm just supposed to enable IPv6 support for that WAN service and off it goes.
Mind you I've also noticed that I've mysteriously lost 10Mb/s as a result of the migration.
I can't run the advanced BT diagnostics and my openreach modem is locked so I don't know if it's sync speed or something at IDNet's end.
But something this modem has always done is take an age to connect sometimes. In fact sometimes it just seems to fail completely. I think I still have my 7300 around so might give that a try.
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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
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Ah ha. Actually the old router is a 6300 and yes, it immediately connects and gets me IPv6.
Speeds are still rubbish though :-/
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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
Edited by Andrue (Tue 06-Jun-17 20:37:27)
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Is it an HG612 or an ECI modem?
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 63679/13080Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6Edited by RobertoS (Tue 06-Jun-17 20:59:17)
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I can't run the advanced BT diagnostics I suspect you are on the Zen non-WBC backhaul that IDNet use for connections where it is available. Does samknows show your exchange as Zen LLU?
Edit. Do you mean the TAP2 and TAP 3, or the Further diagnostics?
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 63679/13080Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6Edited by RobertoS (Tue 06-Jun-17 21:02:32)
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A little tale of me, IDNet and IPv6...
I used to use a Billion 7800 and that connected straight out of the box with IPv6. Then, shortly after the warranty expired, so did the wireless. So I bought an Asus RT-N66U (it was prettier than the Billion... anything was prettier than that Billion ).
But it would not connect using IPv6 and DHCP, and IDNet couldn't see why either. So I put the Billion back, made a note of the IPv6 address it gave me and tried setting up the Asus using that as a fixed address.
I've no idea why, but it worked fine and has done ever since, and allows me to set up an IPv6 BQM as a bonus (IDNet use dynamic for IPv6).
I suspect it's some weird incompatibility in the two implementations of IPv6 between IDNet and Asus, with neither doing anything that is actually incorrect. Might be worth a try if you don't mind fixed addresses.
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Nope, no Zen at my exchange. I can run the basic test but when I try to run advanced it just says not available. I also tried the mouselike profile page and it fails to get a profile. I'm wondering if this and the speed are because it's still the day of migration and BT's systems haven't fully sorted themselves out.
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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
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Is it an HG612 or an ECI modem? HG612. It definitely works with my old 6300 so the problem is something to do with the 8800. Unfortunately it's /damn/ difficult to know what if anything I've got configured wrongly. Clearly it works fine for IPv4 albeit requiring two or three attempts to get an actually functional connection. I think that was the same with PN.
There's a more recent firmware available that I might try at the weekend however I need to steal myself to make a note of all the settings I've changed for port forwarding.
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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
Edited by Andrue (Tue 06-Jun-17 22:41:53)
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I see Bill says there that he has an ASUS RT-N66U and a Billion, both identical to what I have. Except I'm using the Billion in modem/router mode and the ASUS is sitting unused, whereas Bill must have a separate modem as the ASUS doesn't have one.
If I get chance tomorrow, (it could be a busy day), I'll power up my ASUS and have a look at its IPv6 settings, see if I can get a cross-match with my Billion, as the GUI layouts are completely different, then perhaps post up my ASUS settings for AAISP and see how they compare to Bill's for IDNet.
With luck I'll then be able to suggest Billion settings for you.
Edit: Strikeouts because I had brain-fade about Bill's Billion.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 63679/13080Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6Edited by RobertoS (Wed 07-Jun-17 00:08:33)
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I see Bill says there that he has an ASUS RT-N66U and a Billion, both identical to what I have. Except I'm using the Billion in modem/router mode whereas Bill must have a separate modem as the ASUS doesn't have one. Yes, I had the standard BT modem... but have you got a Billion 7800? It's an old router and, iirc, didn't have a VDSL modem...
Edited by billford (Wed 07-Jun-17 00:18:45)
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Sorry, I misread your post . Mine's the 8800NL R2 that Andrue has.
It's more a question of comparing my ASUS settings with yours so I can translate yours into Billion 8800 speak.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 63679/13080Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6 |
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I did a compare and contrast between my Billion 6800 and my 8800 but the 6800 has a much simpler configuration. You pretty much just fill in the obvious fields and that's that.
The 8800 has multiple interfaces and interface groups and is more complicated. But I'd expect the 8800nl r2 to work because that's the same router that IDNet supply. Unfortunately the 8800 manual is badly written as well as confusing. For instance it talks about 'EWAN profile' in several places but never tells you how to activate it. I think it just means 'when port 4 is being used to connect to an external WAN' (my setup) but calling it a 'profile' is just confusing.
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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
Edited by Andrue (Wed 07-Jun-17 07:55:15)
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According to IDNet support the 8800 is simply not asking for IPv6 :-/
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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
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OK. I had that initially. Will look this afternoon.
It is definitely the R2, book shaped and black? Their website shows its white curvy predecessor.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 63679/13080Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6Edited by RobertoS (Wed 07-Jun-17 10:51:42)
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OK. I had that initially. Will look this afternoon.
It is definitely the R2, book shaped and black? Their website shows its white curvy predecessor. Mine is the grey and white 'ugly' R2, not sure about IDNet's.
However there is a possibility that the problem is where I've plugged the EWAN cable. I had a reply on the Billion support forum saying that I should plug the cable from the OR modem into the EWAN port. Now that's kinda obvious but when I read that my initial thought was "It doesn't have one - that's why P4 can be either EWAN or ETH".
So I'm just wondering if I do have it plugged into P4 as if I was bridging to both the internet and a separate network. That might explain the problems it has getting a connection if it thinks it ought to have:
* A WAN (actually the internet)
* An internet connection (not connected).
Maybe that works for IPv4 because of NAT but the IPv6 side is being bypassed somehow. Perhaps in that mode the WAN layer ignores IPv6 because it 'knows' it should come from the internet connection.
The manual doesn't seem terribly clear: 'Note: P4 can be configured as EWAN, and when the device is in EWAN profile, there is no
P4/EWAN interface as P4 is working as a WAN port'
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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
Edited by Andrue (Wed 07-Jun-17 11:11:38)
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Sorted! Yes, I was plugged into the correct port. A reply on the Billion forum listed a few settings and last of all was:
'enable 'Issue Router Advertisements' in the LAN>>IPv6 Autoconfig section.'
..and that seems to have done. That's really not obvious. It's completely separate from where you enable IPv6 on the WAN service.
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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
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