Can I now order FTTP?

Hello.
I've just had a look at the BT Broadband Availability Checker and got quite a surprise. It now says FTTP is available to me. I've put a link to the checker below. I never expected to get this so I need to let some of you very knowledgeable people who have given me lots of good advice in the past look at it and tell me if this is really available. I have heard that some people who have had the same information from the checker then to be told by OR sorry was a mistake. Is there any way to check if it's available to me? If it is then I have no idea how to go about finding who supplies FTTP. I am with UNO at the moment and I wouldn't like to leave them but I can't find any info on their site about FTTP. I would really appreciate input and advice from the forum please.

The link is http://www.petremembrance.co.uk/exchange.jpg

Caley.

You can order FTTC, but if you want to go down the FTTC Fibre on Demand route, then it's going to cost you a fair bit more.

You will have to pay possibly a considerable amount for the install and then also for the minimum term of a Fibre on Demand contract.

I'd stick with the FTTC for now unless you have money to burn.

Thanks for the reply. I already have FTTC with UNO but I think I would go for FTTP if I can find out how much to get it installed and how much the ongoing cost would be. Whatever it costs I don't think I would refuse as it would help out on some of the projects I'm involved in.

Caley.

In reply to a post by caley:

Thanks for the reply. I already have FTTC with UNO but I think I would go for FTTP if I can find out how much to get it installed and how much the ongoing cost would be. Whatever it costs I don't think I would refuse as it would help out on some of the projects I'm involved in.

Caley.

We're not talking a couple of hundred for install fees here.

There are a lot of factors involved, but expect an install fee around a few thousand pounds. You then also have to sign up for a 36 month contract with exceptionally expensive monthly rates - the wholesale rate from BT is £140 a month I believe, and you can expect the very limited number of ISPs who offer FTTPoD to add to that figure once they add in their costs.

Your best bet is probably to just be patient and wait for G.Fast sadly.

Hi. You could be right about waiting if ever G.Fast becomes available here but even a couple of thousand sound ok but if you're right about the ongoing cost I'd need to think about it. I'll do a bit of investigating around Google and see what it says then decide. Thanks for your appreciated input.

Caley.

In reply to a post by Pgre:

You can order FTTC, but if you want to go down the FTTC Fibre FTTP on Demand route ....

FTFY .

Budget £3-5k installation fee and then £200-250 per month for 3 years.

See the Openreach FTTPoD pricelist charged to BT Wholesale and any other Wholesale level providers.

The yellow lines look to be available in four days' time.

Note that from your FTTC estimate you are over 600 metres from the FTTC cabinet, and I doubt if the aggregation point that you would connect to would be much less.

So you are looking at a fixed £750, plus distance-related £1750 or £2450 installation. Subject to feasibility survey and possible extra charges, plus BT Wholesale profit, plus ISP gross margin, plus of course Vat but I assume your recoup that.

Then the ongoing Openreach rental as you can see is £1188pa. Plus the margins for the intermediates as above.

Is 50Mbps or so down and 8-9Mbps on up on FTTC inadequate?

Thanks for the correction. I'll try and blame auto correct

As an alternative you could get another phone line installed and use either load balancing or line bonding to double your bandwidth. The cost would be not much more than two connections worth.

Thanks for all you advice and suggestions. I've read through the price list and also many comments on Google about the costs and procedures for FTTP. There seems to be only a few isp's that offer FTTP, and I wouldn't touch BT with a bargepole. However much I think the initial cost is worth bearing it's the annual cost that might change my mind. I am involved in a number of projects where FTTP would be a real help but the mention of a second line by BatBoy at a much lower running cost might be the way to go. I'll post here again when I've gone into it further and decided which way to go. Thanks again all, I knew I'd get the required help here amongst the knowledgeable ones

Caley.

Re BatBoy's suggestion of a second line, look up the difference between line bonding and load balancing. Depending on the type of secondary benefits you may prefer one or the other.

Just to add, the number of providers that do FTTP is more than the number that do FTTPoD. Just because a provider does FTTP does not mean that FTTPoD will be available - I believe when people have tried to order recently it has been very difficult to find a provider.

Only one for sure is Spectrum Internet

Thanks Andrew. I vaguely remembered something had been posted but couldn't remember the name.