Gfast - Current coverage exchanges

I've been informed that Gfast is available in the following locations at the moment as part of the initial trial (not sure about the specific cabinets covered at the moment):

Cambridgeshire

Cambridge Central (EACAM)
Cherry Hinton (EACRH)
Histon (EAHIS)
Waterbeach (EAWTB)

Kent

Allhallows (NDALL)
Chatham (NDCDO)
Cliffe (NDCLI)
Gillingham (Kent - NDGIL)
Hoo (NDHOO)
Strood (NDSTR)

The majority of the orders have been in Cherry Hinton and Gillingham.

Work is still going on to enable the pilot in 17 locations by the end of March.

Edited by deleted (Mon 30-Jan-17 13:54:50)

Lucky them all to have g.fast.

The rest of UK have to wait for their turn as a pot of the luck out of the draw by 2020.

2025 for Cuckoo Oak I am told

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

2025 for Cuckoo Oak I am told

Huh. I heard no commercial case, on VDSL indefinitely.

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

2025 for Cuckoo Oak I am told

Grrrrr

By 2025 the whole broadband world could have changed, particularly in this country. Current or near future commercial viability is not likely to be relevant.

Won't the world have ended by then ?

I thought Cuckoo Oak was in line for the new broadband trial, FTTP - Fibre to the Pigeon

Well that made me smile if no one else..

Oh dear!!!!

On to that like a hawk, weren't you!

Something that is quite interesting is that "smaller" ISPs seem to have concerns about the bandwidth that can be used from ultrafast speeds. Most of these ISPs will be purchasing contracted bandwidth from BT Wholesale at £48.55 (ex VAT) per Mbit/s per month, a price which hasn't changed in 7 years.

A 'heavy' user on Gfast could easily cost one of these smaller ISPs a lot of money (I guess none of them could offer an unlimited package though).

Edited by deleted (Mon 30-Jan-17 19:50:03)

£48.55 per month per Mbps?

Assuming you are talking throughput capacities not data transport on an MSIL that is huge. Even catering for one streaming 60Mbps user on an MSIL would be £2913. There will be thousands. Plus all the intermittent browsing users.

Did you mean 48.55 pence? Or perhaps Gbps?

Edited by RobertoS (Mon 30-Jan-17 19:58:47)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

£48.55 per month per Mbps?

That's the contracted bandwidth cost for an ISP for carrying their data through the BT Wholesale network.

wow Gillingham, where every trial.. in the world.. has been so far

Edited by deleted (Mon 30-Jan-17 21:50:58)

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

I thought Cuckoo Oak was in line for the new broadband trial, FTTP - Fibre to the Pigeon

No No NO!

I have been told, on a reliable source ( ) that Cuckoo Oak will be getting 10Gbps per house at a "special rate" of £21.49p a month. The people who live near the Spa will be on pot luck until 2155.

Honestly guv! :/

Edited by deleted (Mon 30-Jan-17 21:53:51)

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

£48.55 per month per Mbps?

That's the contracted bandwidth cost for an ISP for carrying their data through the BT Wholesale network.

https://www.btwholesale.com/assets/documents/Service...

Aggregation Point cost £40+VAT / Mbps / month.

In reply to a post by 23Prince:

wow Gillingham, where every trial.. in the world.. has been so far

Apart from the Ebbsfleet greenfield FTTP trial, the Docklands brownfield FTTP trial, the Cambridgeshire and Nottinghamshire G.fast trials, the Swindon FTTP 2 trial, the Deddington FTTP replacement trial, etc.

23prince

If an exchange has the right demographics and geographics for one trial of copper technology it will have those for most copper technologies.

In addition it will then have a local workforce used to dealing with new technology in a trial so will tend to always be at the top of the list for the next trial!

Same applies for fibre trial areas except once fibred they are often no longer suitable for the next trial. So it tends to be in the same larger geography but different actual site. Cambridge, Cherry Hinton, Camboure etc fit for these.

Cambourne was one of the first sites to be served by fibre only back in the 1990s using TPON as it was so far from an exchange! (Too far for decent voice over copper !) . BB was therefore not possible until FTTC or FTTP was used making it perfect for BB trials. Other Cambridge housing developments are similarly spread from exchanges so also good for trials.

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

In reply to a post by 23Prince:

wow Gillingham, where every trial.. in the world.. has been so far

Apart from the Ebbsfleet greenfield FTTP trial, the Docklands brownfield FTTP trial, the Cambridgeshire and Nottinghamshire G.fast trials, the Swindon FTTP 2 trial, the Deddington FTTP replacement trial, etc.

Yes - and Gillingham is once again in this trial, are the others?

At least 4 of those sites mentioned now have FTTP, why would they use g.fast there

(a point already covered by ignitionnet )

This is an extension of the original G.fast trial.

The purpose of the trial extension (from Nov 2016) in/around Cherry Hinton and Gillingham was scale up from a bespoke build to a strategic build.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

I thought Cuckoo Oak was in line for the new broadband trial, FTTP - Fibre to the Pigeon

hahaha. I never stop laughed! Good point MrSaffron.

In reply to a post by 23Prince:

Yes - and Gillingham is once again in this trial, are the others?

This is a pilot deployment. They just left the kit from the trial there and it is passing from trial to commercial rollout. Building out from the trials makes sense as the upgraded headend is already there along with trained staff.

NGA2001/17 Launch of G.fast fibre journey onto our fibre availability checker

31/01/2017 For Information

All NGA/NGA2 Communications Providers (CPs)
This briefing informs CPs about an enhancement to our fibre availability checker that'll enable the inclusion of a G.fast order journey.

Openreach has issued a briefing for Communications Providers (CPs) regarding an enhancement to our fibre availability checker that�ll enable the inclusion of a G.fast order journey.

The functionality is planned to go live on Wednesday 1 February.

This only refers to pilot areas...

It won't show future commercial plans as these are still unknown.