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Standard User Michael_Chare
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 21-Feb-17 11:26:35
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If you want wired phones a Cisco SPA112 would give your two sockets, alternatively a Gigaset N300IP would work with the Gigaset Dect phones. You should be able to port your landline number to Voiphone, who have a well deserved reputation for being helpful.
Sipgate are another possibility.

Michael Chare
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 21-Feb-17 11:56:34
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21CN voice exists, it's just the final mile (Openreach) end that doesn't.

SOGEA is on its way, despite some large ISPs not wanting it...
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Feb-17 12:28:35
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Indeed, and what an exceptionally deep joy that is as well.


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Standard User ferretuk
(member) Tue 21-Feb-17 13:13:43
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I think you mis-read the post...

32 consumers fed from the same hardware. Not a specific ISP issue as the users affected were on a mix of providers.

Not 32 end users, each on a different ISP

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 21-Feb-17 14:10:42
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Pardon?

Ignoring the fact the poster probably means a splitter, as that simply makes the strange post even less probable, cutting out verbiage we get ""the FTTP card in the exchange went bad which affected all 32 users on it. The users were all with different ISPs too".

How you get from that to suggesting I misread it is baffling. Methinks it is you not reading the original or my queries about it properly.

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
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Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 65258/14193Kbps @ 600m. BQMs - IPv4 & IPv6
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 21-Feb-17 15:06:51
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Okay Robertos, I think you knew I meant that the users were spread across multiple ISPs (not 32 separate ISPs).
I know that some of the others were on BT Retail (as their forums showed at the time and where I elicited help and support to get this fixed) and I am with Plusnet.

As to whether you believe it or not, it did happen and was publically discussed at the time. I had some assistance from a nice chap called Andy on this forum and Plusnet's who help to discover the issue was a cross ISP one.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 21-Feb-17 18:50:40
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No. I assumed you were simply wrong. What you said was clear, as I have pointed out three times. It could not be true, but what you meant to say is completely impossible to guess. frown

At no point have I disputed that some piece of kit with 32 users became faulty, or any of the rest of the tale. Only that the 32 users were all on different ISPs.

You now in effect say assorted or various ISPs. I've no quibble at all with either of those.

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 21-Feb-17 19:35:11
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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
Hi,

Since you've had the BT 330/30 service for a while (some might even call you a FTTP 'veteran'!) I've got some questions regarding this - I'm getting the Openreach 330/30 FTTPoD service installed in a few months through Fluidata:

Well I wouldn't say I was a FTTP veteran, but I have had it for a few months now.
Like most if not all your questions have already been ordered.

Not really sure on the differences between FTTP and FTTPoD apart from the cost.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
1) Are you able to login to the ONT unit via your router to see any kind of connection stats (eg sync rate) on your FTTP service?

Not that I am aware of.
I am hoping soon to ditch the Smart Hub and have my Linux Box connect to the WAN Port on the ONT and handle the PPPoE comunication, so maybe that would have some speed information, but not too sure.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
2) What speeds do you get in speedtests? I guess something like ~ 300/25 after overheads are taken into account?

Well it depends on the time of the day.
From 02:00 to 15:00 - 16:30 I get this speed.
From 15:00 - 16:30 to 02:00 I get this speed (just did this test a few mins ago)

The only issue I have with Infinity 4 is that BT won't treat it as a speed fault until it drops below 40Mbps where as Infinity 1 only had to drop to 20Mbps for it to become a speed fault.

But I have only seen it drop down to 47Mbps a few times but it normally drops down to between 150Mbps and 200Mbps due to congestion so overall not too bad, plus I moved from a very unstable 2.5Mbps to 5.5Mbps ADSLx connection so still better than before tongue

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3) I guess there's no such thing as DLM on FTTP and you can turn on/off your router a trillion times each day without messing up your connection?

Nope, I have when I first got FTTP moved about the Smart Hub loads of times and I mean loads of times trying to get the best location in the home for the Wi-Fi and after 20 to 30 tries I gave up and connected it back up to where it was at the start, by the ONT.

All through the moving about I got no speed change what so ever.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
4) I know the Backup Battery Unit (BBU) is primarily there to provide power to your FVA service in case of a power cut but once the OR bod has installed this, can you just bin the BBU and just connect the ONT direct to mains power? Or perhaps you would be breaking OR t&c's by doing this?

This I don't know.

I do know when the engineer was installing the ONT he asked me if I wanted the BBU connected due to the FVA install wasn't on his list.

So my understanding of that was if your not getting FVA you don't need the BBU and is the reason why it doesn't get installed all the time.

I explained to him all the issues we had on our copper line and that the FTTP was to have everything moved off the copper line, where the engineer was happy to install the BBU.

I wasn't too sure if he had any FVA Faceplates due to he told me to swap the wires in the NTE5A Master Socket (A, B Pins) from the copper line to the new cable he installed.

He made it clear to do it when the TEL1 is flashing or lighting up.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
5) Finally, how easy was it to move over your copper based tel no over to your FVA line? I'm going to let my FTTC service run alongside my FTTP service for a few months but eventually i plan on ceasing my full LLU copper line and porting the tel no over to the FVA line. With TalkTalk/BT/Openreach/Fluidata involved I can expect a lot of fun & games (ie next to impossible for a LLU copper>FVA tel number migration)

Well if you have the FVA Faceplate installed and the TEL1 light is flashing of lighting up, if I recall you just switch the little switch in the new face plate from copper to fibre and dial 142 599 while switched over on the fibre, you will hear an automated message with options, so listen carefully and choose the options.

I have only really had just the one issue since I have had fibre and that was a silly issue that caught me and the FTTP Faults team at BT.

This issue was my Smart Hub had been connected for about a month and had a hissy fit and dropped the Ethernet Link Speed between the Smart Hub and my LAN from 1Gbit down to 100Mbit.

So the guy at BT thought it was a fault and so did myself, lucky I knew the engineer that was sent and they were happy to sign it off as resolved and move onto their next job.

Thats it really.

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 - 310Mbps (down), 31Mbps (up)
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 22-Feb-17 04:38:34
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Thanks Paul, very useful info.

I just hope I don't suffer significant speed drops at peak times on my service but if i do, I'm confident Fluidata will fight my corner as they seem to have very impressive support stats (I will be on the standard 24hr SLA)
http://www.fluidone.com/support/

I will be using my own high end Asus or Netgear router connected to the ONT unit so don't expect any hardware issues on my side, unless the router goes belly up completely.

Now just have to wait 2-4 weeks for the FoD site survey to be done, hopefully no hiccups occur and the installation will go ahead in the estimated timescale & cost smile

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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Feb-17 07:33:10
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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
Thanks Paul, very useful info.

I just hope I don't suffer significant speed drops at peak times on my service but if i do, I'm confident Fluidata will fight my corner as they seem to have very impressive support stats (I will be on the standard 24hr SLA)
http://www.fluidone.com/support/

I will be using my own high end Asus or Netgear router connected to the ONT unit so don't expect any hardware issues on my side, unless the router goes belly up completely.

Now just have to wait 2-4 weeks for the FoD site survey to be done, hopefully no hiccups occur and the installation will go ahead in the estimated timescale & cost smile


Well its hit and miss to do with the speed drop at peak times, there isn't much you can do if it drops from 300 down to 100 or even 50Mbps, its not a fault its just BT's network getting congested, I would assume it would be the same for any provider that uses BTs network.

Well the Smart Hub isn't that bad to be honest, I have had worse, but when I have done enough reading up on how to setup a secure router on Linux I will do it smile

Well lets hope it all goes to plan, I know we had build issues, which I won't get into tongue

How far are you from your nearest Node?

Not too sure if its the nearest Aggregation Node and they install a new Splitter Node, or they connect you to the nearest already installed Splitter Node.

I know my road has 2 Splitter Nodes.

So fingers crossed it all goes to plan smile

Paul

BTBroadband - Infinity 4 - 310Mbps (down), 31Mbps (up)
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