power to cabinet and also fibre?

HI Guys,

This week, between the 6-10 March, BT will be adding power to my cabinet...this is the second time, they will be doing this.

During this time, is it possible for the fibre cable to be included later on, say Thursday or Friday? Or does the fibre cable have to done at another date? The reason I asked, is because the deadline is the 31st March. And I'm eager for it to move to the "activate" box on the Openreach website for the 4 weeks of testing lol.

Roadworks quote below:

"POWER CONNECTION following street cabinet installation. Excavate to expose low voltage cable for Power Connection and lay duct. POWER engineer to carry out inspection prior to jointing. POWER jointing team to insert cable and execute jointing works. Reinstate, Check and clear site"

Anything is possible, but likely to be too separate teams of people and given state of roll-out and workloads they are usually busy elsewhere

Whose deadline is 31 March?

If that is just the scheduled availability date it just means "possible". Quarter end dates are nearly always just place-holders, meaning it is still in the rollout list. They usually change to later during the week before the quarter end.

I think it unlikely. The fibre cablers won't want to be working at the cab the same time the power is being connected

BT don't do the power its the power company
power only gets done once
who said the date is 31/1st march -- if tis codelook that's actually a openreach view to the service providers about when a cab might be potentially available but is not a give date and actually its not even public information -- so don't assume it is correct or right as that date will be a place holder -- anything that causes an issue such as power / fibre / objection etc will mean that placeholder date will be missed

Hi,

I checked openreach's web site and entered my phone number. And now it says:

"we need to do some further checks. Please enter your postcode for the most accurate information about your premises"

I entered my post code, and it use to show me the "connect" box for FTTC. And now as of today, it has gone to the "in scope" "your area is currently in our plans to be upgraded to FTTP"?

Sometimes, when the cab is about to go live, the checkers getting muddled up.

If the cab is there and work has been ongoing, they wouldn't all of a sudden scrap the plans and change to FTTP.

In reply to a post by lee111s:

Sometimes, when the cab is about to go live, the checkers getting muddled up.

If the cab is there and work has been ongoing, they wouldn't all of a sudden scrap the plans and change to FTTP.

Finger's crossed it does....when I checked the dsl checker it still says 31 March

Just found out someone is working on my cabinet now, and digging up the road

I'm assuming this is just for the power connection mentioned in roadworks....but I hope it is also related to the fibre cable

In reply to a post by lee111s:

Sometimes, when the cab is about to go live, the checkers getting muddled up.

If the cab is there and work has been ongoing, they wouldn't all of a sudden scrap the plans and change to FTTP.

I know its a bit late of a reply, but they do do that depending on the amount of lines that are too far from the cabinet.
If the cost of a new FTTC costs more than the few lines that would get FTTP, they would get FTTP.

It would really be stupid for them to install an AIO for just a few lines, which is why you see the odd few homes with FTTP surrounded by homes with FTTC.

They have also done that the other way round where some get FTTP and the rest end up getting FTTC.

So it does happen, maybe just not that often.

Paul

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

In reply to a post by lee111s:

Sometimes, when the cab is about to go live, the checkers getting muddled up.

If the cab is there and work has been ongoing, they wouldn't all of a sudden scrap the plans and change to FTTP.

I know its a bit late of a reply, but they do do that depending on the amount of lines that are too far from the cabinet.
If the cost of a new FTTC costs more than the few lines that would get FTTP, they would get FTTP.

It would really be stupid for them to install an AIO for just a few lines, which is why you see the odd few homes with FTTP surrounded by homes with FTTC.

They have also done that the other way round where some get FTTP and the rest end up getting FTTC.

So it does happen, maybe just not that often.

Paul

I had someone speak to the engineers doing the digging, and they said they are simply getting the duct ready for the cables

How quickly does it proceed for the power followed by the cable? I take this with a pinch of salt, but they also said in 2 weeks the fibre cable would be installed?

It takes as long as it takes.

There's no rule of thumb, every cabinet is different.

A delay in one aspect of the process can add months onto the cabinet ready time as the teams who were scheduled to do work but can't because of the previous delay will have work planned in for the next x weeks or months, so it sometimes has to wait until there's a spare workstack slot before they can revisit the cab.

Just wait until the silver lock is on. That's when you're days away from being able to order. Until then, assume nothing.

In reply to a post by lee111s:

It takes as long as it takes.

There's no rule of thumb, every cabinet is different.

A delay in one aspect of the process can add months onto the cabinet ready time as the teams who were scheduled to do work but can't because of the previous delay will have work planned in for the next x weeks or months, so it sometimes has to wait until there's a spare workstack slot before they can revisit the cab.

Just wait until the silver lock is on. That's when you're days away from being able to order. Until then, assume nothing.

silver lock? Will this be on the green cabinet?

Yes.

In reply to a post by cjdavid:

I had someone speak to the engineers doing the digging, and they said they are simply getting the duct ready for the cables

How quickly does it proceed for the power followed by the cable? I take this with a pinch of salt, but they also said in 2 weeks the fibre cable would be installed?

I was referring to your post on Mon 06-Mar-17 16:27:15, them changing their minds from rolling out FTTC to then roll out FTTP.

Where it can and does happen.

Getting the ducts ready for the cables could mean anything, did they say what cables?

Also was the digging a long trench between two locations, was the FTTC cabinet one end?

If its a long trench along the pavement they might be installing new ducting for all of their cables.

Also how long is this trench?

But like other have already said, I wouldn't trust two weeks, but I have a reason not to believe the dates engineers and ISP state due to they are never correct.

But you might be lucky.

Paul

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

In reply to a post by cjdavid:

I had someone speak to the engineers doing the digging, and they said they are simply getting the duct ready for the cables

How quickly does it proceed for the power followed by the cable? I take this with a pinch of salt, but they also said in 2 weeks the fibre cable would be installed?

I was referring to your post on Mon 06-Mar-17 16:27:15, them changing their minds from rolling out FTTC to then roll out FTTP.

Where it can and does happen.

Getting the ducts ready for the cables could mean anything, did they say what cables?

Also was the digging a long trench between two locations, was the FTTC cabinet one end?

If its a long trench along the pavement they might be installing new ducting for all of their cables.

Also how long is this trench?

But like other have already said, I wouldn't trust two weeks, but I have a reason not to believe the dates engineers and ISP state due to they are never correct.

But you might be lucky.

Paul

I just came back from work, and they were digging a trench between the green cabinet, and the two BT cabinet's. There is also a pavement that has a small BT panel that they dug there too...I'll take photo's if I can.

HI guys,

Sorry it took a while, but here are three photos of the digging that "glenelly utilities" did at my local cabinet.

http://pixady.com/image/lmm/

http://pixady.com/image/lmn/

http://pixady.com/image/lmo/

Does anyone know, what will be done next please?

As has been said, it'll be done when it's done

Stalking the OR twitter feed won't speed it up

In reply to a post by lee111s:

As has been said, it'll be done when it's done

Stalking the OR twitter feed won't speed it up

lol I'll try, it's a bit like that feeling the day before Christmas lol

Indeed. But it could still be months yet.

In reply to a post by cjdavid:

Sorry it took a while, but here are three photos of the digging that "glenelly utilities" did at my local cabinet.

http://pixady.com/image/lmm/

That shows the exposed local LV mains supply and a cable tail, from the "fibre" cabinet, ready to be spliced onto the LV supply.

In simple terms, it shows that the power supply is/has being/been connected.

In reply to a post by burakkucat:

In reply to a post by cjdavid:

Sorry it took a while, but here are three photos of the digging that "glenelly utilities" did at my local cabinet.

http://pixady.com/image/lmm/

That shows the exposed local LV mains supply and a cable tail, from the "fibre" cabinet, ready to be spliced onto the LV supply.

In simple terms, it shows that the power supply is/has being/been connected.

Thank you for explaining that

Still pestering I see...

I'm pleased to announce that BT infinity is now available at my cabinet. I honestly can't wait for my activation date

Congratulations!

In reply to a post by WilliamGrimsley:

Congratulations!

Cheers I can't wait for my activation date lol

You wanted to be the fly on the wall when I knew our cabinet went live! I went absolutely nuts!

Edited by deleted (Thu 18-May-17 21:45:31)

Do you have fibre in your area, burakkucat?

In reply to a post by WilliamGrimsley:

You wanted to be the fly on the wall when I knew our cabinet went live! I went absolutely nuts!

lol I asked the BT guy on the phone 5 times "are you sure", "is it a database error". Then I went bonkers when he confirmed it

Yes. There has a G.993.2 based service available since September 2010.

Haha! Well, when you've been putting up with 5/1 (on a good day) for several years, you can't believe it!

Any reason not to upgrade? Is it because the cabinet in use is an ECI, or do you just not require the faster speeds it offers?

The cabinet (EABSE_P28) is equipped with an Huawei SmartAX MT5603T MSAN.

I currently receive a G.992.3 service and that is perfectly adequate for all of my needs.

I didn't expect that! I presumed ECI because i didn't realise Openreach were deploying Huawei cabinets in 2010! But, fair enough. I'd still be on ADSL now if the exchange wasn't so far away!

Edited by deleted (Fri 19-May-17 18:35:05)