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(deleted) Fri 10-Mar-17 09:20:32
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Decent download speed; devices not responding


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Hi there,

I am new to this forum and, although I know a bit about computers and the like, I am not particularly up on the terminology of the internet so, layman's terms please wherever possible.

I have been with TalkTalk for some years now and until recently the broadband was copper. I was getting about 7Mbs. Our TV/broadband/landline package contract was coming to an end recently and TalkTalk made me an offer that I couldn't refuse which included upgrading to fibre, which we did.

Now, here is my problem. We are currently getting 35/40Mbs on various speed checkers. The problem is that the devices in our home don't seems to understand this and seem to be responding no quicker than they were using copper and in some cases even slower. A good example of this would be the TV. I was recently recording a film on our YouView box over the internet. My wife and daughter decided that they wanted to watch a programme On Demand. The YouView box had all sorts of problems with this and was constantly buffering. Surely at 36/37Mbs this should be sufficient to handle these two things? There may have been a smartphone using the internet at the same time but that would have been about it.

Has anyone got any ideas please as I am currently thinking about scrapping the fibre and going back to copper?

Hoping that someone can help me out.

Regards,

Ron.
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(deleted) Fri 10-Mar-17 09:22:27
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Tried a factory reset on the router?

Failing that I'd try a different router.
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(staff) Fri 10-Mar-17 09:26:19
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Is the YouView box connected to the TalkTalk router?

Can you post a link to the speed test at http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest sometimes the numbers can be good but hidden away in the data is an indication of a problem.

You should be able to just about manage 4 or 5 HD streams even if you had a 15 Mbps connection.

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(deleted) Fri 10-Mar-17 10:00:36
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Hi lee111s,

Thanks for your prompt reply.

As I explained earlier, as I am getting speeds of 35Mbs(ish) using wireless does that not mean that the router is working adequately?

Sorry if I am being a bit naive but I am not terribly knowledgeable about these things!
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(staff) Fri 10-Mar-17 10:06:58
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The wireless speeds suggests the connection itself is behaving fine, how is the YouView box connected to the TalkTalk router

If using powerline plugs this can sometimes be a bottle neck

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(deleted) Fri 10-Mar-17 10:52:21
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Hi Mr Saffron,

Thanks for your reply.

YouView box is connected "wirelessly" to the router through a powerline plug!

Where is the data that you are suggesting that I post to the speed test forum? I have been using www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk but I can't see any data. Is it hidden away on this site or am I better using another checker?

Thanks again,

Ron.
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(deleted) Fri 10-Mar-17 13:00:55
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Try connecting direct with Ethernet, without powerlines.

Wireless and powerlines can cause problems on their own. Combining the two is asking for trouble.
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(staff) Fri 10-Mar-17 13:35:03
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Combining wireless and powerline may be the problem, as suggested use an Ethernet checker.

The tester you linked to does sometimes overstate results for some devices, we run our at http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest

So not hidden, just part of the main site rather than the use forums.

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(deleted) Fri 10-Mar-17 16:46:06
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I can't understand how they cause problems. We have 2 for our BT TV...
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(deleted) Fri 10-Mar-17 16:49:30
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You don't understand how electrical current can affect data signals?
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(deleted) Fri 10-Mar-17 16:55:36
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Of course I do! Stop making out that I know nothing, because trust me I know quite a bit! Not every single powerline adapter causes problems so to generalise isn't a good idea. I was just saying that in my setup, they don't so why would they for everyone else?
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(staff) Fri 10-Mar-17 16:59:14
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You started the generalisation, asking someone to test with a cable bypassing the powerlines is a good thing to do, and that's irrespective of whether you think they are working good or not.

Your setup is your setup, and in your setup have you considered that since powerline shares the same spectrum as VDSL2 that the two might be interfering. Something else that needs monitoring

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(deleted) Fri 10-Mar-17 17:02:20
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*reads my post again*.

No, I didn't. I never asked them to do that? Seriously, I cannot understand you Andrew sometimes. Yes, I have monitored my line with and without them and couldn't see any difference in line stats.

I'm out! Nice to be shot at for no reason isn't it? Well, let's hope you do too!

I was hesitant to visit this forum again, but had a burning question about the line attenuation. How wrong was I to visit this point scoring and disgusting forum? Yes, that's exactly how I feel and I'm going to say it because I can and you deserve to be told that your forum is an absolute mess! Good bye!

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(deleted) Fri 10-Mar-17 18:23:13
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I'm out!
A good decision given some of your posts.
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(staff) Fri 10-Mar-17 18:58:48
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You have misunderstood, you waded in and seemed to be saying that powerline units are not going to be the cause of the problems, when ANOTHER rightly suggested previously that testing their youview box with an Ethernet cable to the router was a good idea.

Disagreeing with you is not taking a shot at you at all, and the only point scoring seems to be yourself worrying about this things.

Only by having disagreements and delving into things does any of us learn things.

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