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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 16-Mar-17 11:31:43
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OFCOM restricting customer choice again.


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ISP Representative ajays
(isp) Thu 16-Mar-17 11:32:43
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Anyway why did Zen stop selling Fibre On demand? According to Zarjaz FoD-v1 was selling like hot cakes (mainly businesses) and Openreach couldn't keep up with the demand...


We ran a small FTTPoD trial to test the processes etc. At the time, like many other CPs, we felt the installation experience needed some improvement by Openreach.

Demand was limited, mainly due to cost.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 16-Mar-17 12:27:47
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OFCOM or BT?

I would say it's a positive thing for consumers not being tied up in length contracts.

I do hope that at some point, we see the 36 month term disappear, or at least some version of FoD designed for consumers.


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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 16-Mar-17 12:36:35
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Maybe,, but consumers should be given the choice of going for longer contracts. You can enter a personal car please plan for 36 or 60 month and that is a lot more expensive so why not an agreement for connectivity?


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 16-Mar-17 13:41:01
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It's to the detriment of consumers having long term contracts for telecommunications though. If you open an ISP to being able to offer 24 and 36 month contracts, then they will do exactly that - but as minimum terms.

With huge competition between the ISPs on initial sign up deals these days, it makes perfect sense to allow consumers not to be locked into a longer term contract. This gives the consumer the freedom to shop around for the best deal, if they want.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Mar-17 14:06:46
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I didn't say that, you have me confused with someone else I suspect.

On the other hand, I agree entirely with your view re paying for it all.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 16-Mar-17 14:09:49
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Same old same old.

People want the best for the least amount of money. Just doesn't work for FTTPoD.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 16-Mar-17 15:24:22
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Apologies, I must have got you mixed up with someone else - message edited accordingly.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Mar-17 16:31:10
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Cheers Baby F. smile

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 17-Mar-17 12:54:10
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In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:
It's to the detriment of consumers having long term contracts for telecommunications though. If you open an ISP to being able to offer 24 and 36 month contracts, then they will do exactly that - but as minimum terms.


Long contract terms are a detriment to consumers when most of the network is already installed - in the ground, or up on the poles.

When every service you could possibly hope for runs on that installed network, then boilerplate restrictions from Ofcom are appropriate.

When the service that the consumer wants is beyond the norm, and most of the network needs building, boilerplate restrictions suddenly appear to be out of date. Instead of acting like a sensible limitation on ISP behaviour, they suddenly act like a ball and chain, stopping adventurous ISPs from being able to offer the most forward-looking services.

Regulation, like generals, seems to be about winning the previous war. Not the next one.
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