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Which speed test do you like the best from think broadband speed test, vote now

A) I like the new speed test via here: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest

B) I like the old version of speed test via here: http://labs.thinkbroadband.com/flashipv4/

C) Don't care as I don't use it

For me, I prefer B better than A.

I prefer B, but I am sure over time A will become very good.
Plus I think by 2020 Flash will be no more.

Paul

Academic. Web has been moving away from Flash for a while and the most popular browsers have it disabled by default due to a mass of security issues.

The Flash speed test will be going bye bye I imagine.

Remind that to BT Wholesale as their website still using flash here: http://speedtest.btwholesale.com/

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Remind that to BT Wholesale as their website still using flash here: http://speedtest.btwholesale.com/

Well look how long it took me to persuade BT to update they DSL Checker Server to be more secure.

Paul

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

Academic. Web has been moving away from Flash for a while and the most popular browsers have it disabled by default due to a mass of security issues.

The Flash speed test will be going bye bye I imagine.

Its not flash that has the security issues, its the type of plugin it uses to hook into the browsers.

There is nothing stopping flash from using the other plugin type, where it would be more secure.

Paul

Indeed.

https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2017/07/adobe-...

Adobe is planning to end-of-life Flash. Specifically, we will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020 and encourage content creators to migrate any existing Flash content to these new open formats."

Flash is very problematic.

Security vulnerabilities in Flash over time:

2014 76
2015 329
2016 266
2017 60

http://www.cvedetails.com/product/6761/Adobe-Flash-P...

Google had to create a new plug-in API and sandbox Flash, due to its issues.

https://blog.chromium.org/2012/08/the-road-to-safer-...

In reply to a post by Zadeks:

Flash is very problematic.

Security vulnerabilities in Flash over time:

2014 76
2015 329
2016 266
2017 60

http://www.cvedetails.com/product/6761/Adobe-Flash-P...

Google had to create a new plug-in API and sandbox Flash, due to its issues.

https://blog.chromium.org/2012/08/the-road-to-safer-...

That's exactly what I said they did a new plugin type.

Paul

No, you said "Its not flash that has the security issues".

The vulnerabilities are in the plug-in itself (Flash, Java, etc), not the API. A new API wouldn't have been required if the plug-in didn't have security vulnerabilities, nor would it have needed sandboxing.

What you are saying seems to be like saying there are no security issues within Windows as if you run it within a VM it can't escape into the host OS.

These aren't issues with types of plugins, APIs or middleware, they are issues with the Flash Player which is why Adobe patched them, not browser coders:

http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_...

Flash has a long and unenviable history of security problems and has been made obsolete by HTML 5, etc.

Edited by deleted (Sun 06-Aug-17 11:39:47)

In reply to a post by Zadeks:

No, you said "Its not flash that has the security issues".

The vulnerabilities are in the plug-in itself (Flash, Java, etc), not the API. A new API wouldn't have been required if the plug-in didn't have security vulnerabilities, nor would it have needed sandboxing.

I said the reason browsers was dropping it was due to the type of plugin which has security issues, which has been known for years.

Paul

The security issues in Flash are still present, it's just that more of them are mitigated due to the sandbox nature of PPAPI. It's harder to leverage Flash's vulnerabilities because PPAPI doesn't grant as much access to the host system.

http://www.insanitybit.com/2012/08/03/with-chrome-21...

You can think of Flash as a roaring fire, which may be dangerous without proper protection. PPAPI acts as robust fireguard.

I prefer the speedtest that doesn't rely on ancient and dangerous technology. So it's the new labs speedtest for me.

Prefer 'A'.

The needle / speed counter seems more 'FPS happy'. That is to say, it seems to change from one number to the next by cycling through the fractions, rather than skipping from one number to the next. Also, 'B' didn't have any ISPs in the drop down for me.

Add to that the Flash argument, 'A' seems to be the way to go.