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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 16-Aug-17 18:48:57
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FTTP in West Midlands area


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Is there any FTTP somewhere in the West MIdlands area post code so I could move to other area. Cuckoo Oak could be my last FTTC this year before I can move my house from Telford to West Midlands area (that must have FTTP)
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 16-Aug-17 19:02:16
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Re: FTTP in West Midlands area


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West Midlands is a big area https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/broadband-map#... shows the rough area with each dot being native GEA-FTTP

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Aug-17 20:51:41
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What's the obsession with FTTP?

What is your virgin connection allowing you to do that your FTTC didn't?

What do you expect FTTP will allow you to do that your Virgin connection won't?


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Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 16-Aug-17 21:45:47
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If anywhere gets FTTP in Telford it'll be Wellington, they get everything first.

All the big industrial / office areas are well covered by Virgin, no need for it.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 24-Sep-17 21:11:24
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Of course we need it, FTTP is far more superior than Virgin Media's oversubscribed FTTC and it works. Why should you only have one high speed provider when you could have a choice.

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 00:14:25
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Was told that Telford will not be planning future on FTTP. Only FTTC, G.Fast and FTTPoD for now.

Telford are expecting to roll out G.Fast by 2018.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 26-Sep-17 13:00:07
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FTTP is available for some areas of Telford. My address, TF2 near ASDA, Donington Wood; went live 2 weeks ago with FTTP, packages up to 300mb.

Look on 'superfast telford' or you can type in postcodes on
https://www.homeandbusiness.openreach.co.uk/fibre-br...
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 13:03:22
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You are probably mistaken with FTTP mean to be FTTPoD see below

BT BROADBAND AVAILABILITY CHECKER
Address SITE OFFICE/ASDA CAR PARK, ST GEORGES ROAD, DONNINGTON, TELFORD, TF2 7RX on Exchange OAKENGATES is served by Cabinet 10

Featured Products


Downstream Line Rate(Mbps)


Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)


Downstream Range(Mbps)


WBC FTTP Availability Date






FTTP on Demand 330 30 -- Available -- -- --

ADSL Products


Downstream Line Rate(Mbps)


Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)


Downstream Range(Mbps)


Availability Date






WBC ADSL 2+ Up to 5 -- -- Available -- -- --
WBC ADSL 2+ Annex M Up to 5 Up to 0.5 -- Available -- -- --
ADSL Max Up to 4 -- -- Available -- -- --
WBC Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available -- -- --
Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available -- -- --

Other Offerings








Availability Date






VDSL Multicast -- -- -- Available -- -- --
ADSL Multicast -- -- -- Available -- -- --

Edited by adslmax (Tue 26-Sep-17 13:08:09)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 26-Sep-17 13:43:41
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defo FTTP, but not putting in my full postcode, but served by cabinet 32, from Hollingswood exchange.

Fibre master socket fitted next week on 76mb package.
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 13:52:53
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In reply to a post by certed:
defo FTTP, but not putting in my full postcode, but served by cabinet 32, from Hollingswood exchange.

Fibre master socket fitted next week on 76mb package.
Looking at the information your exchange doesn't do FTTP, it only does FTTC and FTTPod.

Can you do a screen shot of what the DSL Checker displays for your address or phone number, you ca scribble out your address or phone number.

Paul

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 26-Sep-17 13:58:42
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No need I can see some FTTP on that exchange

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 26-Sep-17 14:08:16
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Some folk seem so cynical. As if someone would lie about having FTTP laugh
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 14:11:54
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Impossible. Any proof of it please.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 14:13:02
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In reply to a post by certed:
defo FTTP, but not putting in my full postcode, but served by cabinet 32, from Hollingswood exchange.

Fibre master socket fitted next week on 76mb package.


Proof screenshot please but u can edited out your full post code
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 14:17:24
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here is full list of all cabinets in Hollinswood:

Fibre Cabinet Fibre Status Phase Properties
Passed Vendor Approx
Post Code
Cabinet P1 FTTC Available from 8th June 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 18a 331 Huawei TF3 3BJ
Cabinet P2 FTTC Available from 16th June 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 18a 84 Huawei TF3 3BB
Cabinet P3 FTTC Available from 16th June 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 18a 35 Huawei TF3 4AG
Cabinet P4 FTTC Available from 17th June 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 18a 36 Huawei TF2 9FN
Cabinet P5 FTTC doing Design, live due by January 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 17b Huawei TF3 4AF
Cabinet P6 Fibre Not Available TF2 9NN
Cabinet P7 Fibre Not Available TF3 4HZ
Cabinet P8 Fibre Not Available TF3 4NB
Cabinet P9 Fibre Not Available TF3 4HB
Cabinet P10 FTTC Available from 17th June 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 17b 27 Huawei TF3 3AA
Cabinet P11 FTTC Available from 2nd June 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 18a 117 Huawei TF2 9UR
Cabinet P12 FTTC Available from 10th January 2014, some with 18/2M product Phase 10a 2013 603 Huawei TF2 9PG
Cabinet P13 Fibre Not Available TF3 3BH
Cabinet P14 Fibre Not Available TF3 4AS
Cabinet P15 FTTC Available from 5th May 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 18a 66 Huawei TF11 8TG
Cabinet P16 Fibre Not Available TF3 4DU
Cabinet P17 Fibre Not Available TF3 3AP
Cabinet P18 FTTC Available from 29th June 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 18a 67 Huawei TF3 4BZ
Cabinet P19 FTTC Available from 12th December 2013 Phase 10a 2013 581 Huawei TF3 2DD
Cabinet P20 Fibre Not Available TF3 2BU
Cabinet P21 FTTC Available from 4th February 2014 Phase 10a 2013 412 Huawei TF3 2BA
Cabinet P22 FTTC Available from 6th December 2013 Phase 10a 2013 386 Huawei TF2 9QS
Cabinet P23 FTTC Available from 14th December 2013 Phase 10a 2013 588 Huawei TF2 9NT
Cabinet P24 FTTC Available from 16th June 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 17b 66 Huawei TF3 4AA
Cabinet P25 Fibre Not Available TF2 9TX
Cabinet P26 Fibre Not Available TF2 9TU
Cabinet P27 FTTC Available from 1st July 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 17b 28 Huawei TF2 9TW
Cabinet P28 FTTC Available from 5th May 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 17b 36 Huawei TF3 3AD
Cabinet P29 Fibre Not Available TF2 9TY
Cabinet P30 Fibre Not Available TF3 4AW
Cabinet P31 FTTC Available from 15th June 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 17b 94 Huawei TF2 9NG
Cabinet P32 Fibre Not Available TF2 9FZ
Cabinet P33 Fibre Not Available TF3 3AH
Cabinet P34 FTTC Available from 14th June 2017 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 17b 206 Huawei TF2 7NH
Cabinet P35 FTTC Available from 6th December 2013 Phase 11a 2013-2014 242 Huawei TF2 9FD
Cabinet P36 Fibre Not Available TF2 7NA
Cabinet P37 FTTC being Built, live due by November 2016 Phase SEP Telford and Wrekin 17b Huawei TF3 4BS
Exchange 1 Fibre Not Available TF3 4EA
Exchange 2 Fibre Not Available TF3 3AY
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 14:18:57
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Re: FTTP in West Midlands area


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
No need I can see some FTTP on that exchange

Well I just checked every address on cabinet 32 which the OP said they are on and The Openreach Checker says only FTTC.

Granted SamKnows says the exchange does support FTTP, sadly I am not going to check all ~9K NADKeys to find out LOL, but SamKnows has been wrong loads of times before.

My bad, I was looking at the wrong exchange LOL.

I found at least four addresses with FTTP on cabinet 32 on their exchange.

Paul

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Edited by PaulKirby (Tue 26-Sep-17 14:54:20)

Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 14:20:56
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All cabinets 32 isn't on FTTC nor FTTP or FTTPoD at the moment say BT Checker.

Exchange HOLLINSWOOD is served by Cabinet 32

ADSL Products


Downstream Line Rate(Mbps)


Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)


Downstream Range(Mbps)


Availability Date






WBC ADSL 2+ Up to 2.5 -- 1 to 4 Available -- -- --
ADSL Max Up to 2 -- 1 to 3.5 Available -- -- --
WBC Fixed Rate 1 -- -- Available -- -- --
Fixed Rate 1 -- -- Available -- -- --

Other Offerings








Availability Date






ADSL Multicast -- -- -- Available -- -- --
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 14:24:27
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In reply to a post by PaulKirby:
Well I just checked every address on cabinet 32 which the OP said they are on and The Openreach Checker says only FTTC.

Granted SamKnows says the exchange does support FTTP, sadly I am not going to check all ~9K NADKeys to find out LOL, but SamKnows has been wrong loads of times before.

Paul


Trust me there isn't no FTTP or FTTC on this cabinet nor in Hollinswood exchange for FTTP

Exchange name: Hollinswood
Exchange status: Fibre enabled
Cabinet number: 32
Technology: -
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 14:29:55
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I also agree, but that data is at least 2 to 3 Months old and doesn't prove that somebody doesn't have FTTP.

Take a look at Ilford Central (LNILC) cabinet 24 (my Cabinet), it says the following:

Fibre: From 27th July 2011              Type: FTTC, FTTP, FoD
BT Exchange: Ilford Central             Exchange Code: LNILC
Cabinet P24 FTTC being Built, live due by December 2017 Phase 18b Huawei E12 5AA

Yet I have FTTP, so its possible, all I can say is I checked all addresses that I know of which is on Oakengates (WNOAK) cabinet 32 and none of them mention FTTP.

Paul

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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 14:53:22
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Is your postcode either of these two TF2 9#X or TF2 9#N ?

You can PM me if you don't want to say publicly.

Paul

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 26-Sep-17 14:53:27
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Also bare in mind that some new build postcodes which have FTTP don�t appear against a cabinet on codelook at all, as the postocdes are not associated with a cabinet.

NE27 0GN for example.
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:02:32
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Fair enough, I assume the phone lines are all FVA then.

But certed mentioned cabinet 32, so what you said wouldn't be the case here.

But after a few moments checking the database I found at least 4 addresses where their copper lines go to cabinet 32 have FTTP available to them.

So I can say yes.

Paul

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:05:20
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Fair point. Must be a new build house then.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:05:55
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https://twitter.com/MrSaffron/status/912679489653571584

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:06:26
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All newbuilds with FTTP only have no choice but to have FVA, or, use VoIP.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:08:14
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Nah.

Still don�t believe you, not enough evidence.

You need to take a video of your face next to the ONTE holding up a letter showing the address.

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:08:16
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Thanks but it good to know that Telford got few FTTP at least! Hope it rolling out more in the future.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:15:03
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In reply to a post by certed:
defo FTTP, but not putting in my full postcode, but served by cabinet 32, from Hollingswood exchange.

Fibre master socket fitted next week on 76mb package.


U could be better off with full 330/30 on FTTP to save cost in future as FTTP cost is lots cheaper now than FTTP on 80/20.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:17:34
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Urm - please explain what you mean

GEA-FTTP 330/30 is NOT cheaper than GEA-FTTP 80/20

At a guess you may be confusing some of the promotional pricing that has been in place for G.fast

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:18:47
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I think I got mix up with g.fast pricing. Apology.
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:20:39
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In reply to a post by lee111s:
Nah.

Still don�t believe you, not enough evidence.

You need to take a video of your face next to the ONTE holding up a letter showing the address.

wink

You forgot the News Paper with todays date on it LOL

Paul

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:22:08
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
Was told that Telford will not be planning future on FTTP. Only FTTC, G.Fast and FTTPoD for now.
Who told you this?
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:25:15
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
https://twitter.com/MrSaffron/status/912679489653571584

That postcode wasn't linked to that exchange and cabinet on a certain site, well it was sort of, but not when you list the post codes for a cabinet, that's why I missed that postcode.

But not all on that postcode can get FTTP due to its not all completed yet (i.e. some are still in scope to be done).

Paul

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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:27:11
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In reply to a post by lee111s:
All newbuilds with FTTP only have no choice but to have FVA, or, use VoIP.

Yup, I agree, no point in putting in two lost of cables to later on remove the copper.

Forcing FVA makes sense.

Paul

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:31:00
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Telford has suffer a very big loss of water with STW repaired the largest bigger pipe ever! Ongoing working non-stop since last Sunday 4am. STW provide me 12 bottles of free water.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKpgClLUEAA50Ox.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKpgpoBUEAEVhQj.jpg:large

Edited by adslmax (Tue 26-Sep-17 15:32:26)

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