I saw 5 policemen the other day but they weren't standing sensibly. I asked them all to stand in order of height. Unfortunately that is the only experience I have of copper rearrangement

LOL

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

LOL

Must admit I was expecting a groan more than a LOL

Has anyone actually successfully requested a copper rearrangement for an EO line? I was told much the same as the stock reply above - that it is difficult and they don't do it on request, even for money. They will do it for a bunch of lines if BDUK or similar fund it, but not for individual lines.

No, it just can't be done. It really isn't as simple as connecting your pair to the local PCP, even if it runs right by it, or shares ducts with other lines to the PCP.

Upgrading EO lines is 1 of the most expensive projects, which is why it's only ever BDUK projects. It often involves months of planning and lots of fiddly labour. After all, they can't just move your line on its own, or everyone would want their line moved. Can you imagine if they made an exception for someone and a neighbour found out.

In reply to a post by sheephouse:

Has anyone actually successfully requested a copper rearrangement for an EO line?

They will do it for a bunch of lines if BDUK or similar fund it, but not for individual lines.

Yes, copper re-arrangement is done within BDUK projects, but it really does require work to plan and coordinate (there are potential crosstalk issues, that can affect other homes).

I have certainly seem it happen here (North Yorkshire).

It is likely that the work would have to be done for all homes on a DP, rather than just an individual home. And possibly multiple DPs.

I recently found some history of the FTTC upgrade in Nocton, Lincolnshire. That upgrade included some copper rearrangement (not EO, but a similar situation), but it looks like it took rather a battle to get done.

Take a look here:
http://nocton.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/BT%20Openr...

If you want to read chronologically, use "Older posts" to go back to March 2016, and read from there onwards. Look for references to either "Pillar 3/2 Metheringham" or "Cab 17 Metheringham".

You'll see that cab 17 was being installed to service a PCP that was originally secondary (aka a "pillar") 3/2. The houses that need re-arrangement weren't connected to 3/2, but went direct to PCP (primary) 3.

There is https://communityfibre.bt.com/ which allows groups to co fund a roll-out so for example this could be a number of premises wanting FTTP

I am very handy with a soldering iron and a wire-wrap tool

Which (sadly) displays exactly how little you know of the subject ....neither would be required to do what you request .... what you mention are exchange tools , and they haven't been installing tip solder stuff for years.

I am also very handy with arc welding, oxy-acetylene welding, silver soldering, brazing etc etc, all of which (sadly) are totally inappropriate