Cab Sizes

If you thought some of the cabinets that Openreach use are big, check out these..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-4...

I wonder what these have inside compared to the standard coax taps in their usual green (small height) cabs.

Matt

That is a main fibre node, the standard DOCSIS cab is to the right, so that large grey cab probably covers cabinets totalling 1500 to 2500 premises

Solution: Stick a camera on other side and active screen on other to make it 'invisible' might be cheaper than a relocation

Epic size.

Would like a nosey inside. Know of any internal pictures?

Matt

Not to hand

I wouldn't be complaining. Getting VM speeds!

Solution: Stick a camera on other side and active screen on other to make it 'invisible' might be cheaper than a relocation

Not sure you have costed in all the court cases they'd lose as a constant stream of coffin dodgers bump into it






.... and how would their engineers ever find it to work on it ???

Edited by Zarjaz (Fri 08-Sep-17 17:39:08)

Only 'transparent' on the side facing the flat, obviously not the road side, though a vinyl wrap making that side look like a hedge with building behind might soften the impact visually

Apparently on continent to get around some of these issues cabinets are underground on a riser system, adds to the cost and clearly would need a pump to keep chamber from being a pond

In reply to a post by uno:

I wonder what these have inside compared to the standard coax taps in their usual green (small height) cabs.

Matt

The big one is an MSAN, supplies POTS services to about 500 premises. The smaller one is a power cabinet. Takes LV feed and sends it along coax to power amplifiers and optical nodes, along with having the batteries to keep the MSAN next to it running.

My sympathies are with the occupants of the house. I would have thought that the council should have told them about the planning application.

Job for a no win no fee solicitor?

It would be worth checking whether the height of the cabinet was correctly specified on the planning application.

It would be worth checking whether the height of the cabinet was correctly specified on the planning application.

You mean the non existent planning application that VM were not required to make.

I mean the document which Virgin claim that they sent to the council.

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

I mean the document which Virgin claim that they sent to the council.

Bar something very strange going on councils approve the locations of every cabinet. Even in areas where the city is giving VM some latitude they still want to know where all structures are going to avoid safety issues.

Bar something very strange going on councils approve the locations of every cabinet.

Tell that to Lambeth, or rather those on WRVAUX 54. Lambeth insisted that BT erect our gap-funded AIO cab on the opposite side of the street and then issued a section 58 notice that delayed the cab being connected holding up completion of the project for many months.

Indeed, and I think the height limit may be 1.4m or 4' 7". Judging by the lady, the cabinet might well be higher than that.

Or some very judicious use of camera positioning to fool the eye.

Mind you, those "ground floor" flats do look to be somewhat below street level. Was the developer doing this on the cheap again, trying desperately to squeeze an extra floor in?

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

Indeed, and I think the height limit may be 1.4m or 4' 7". Judging by the lady, the cabinet might well be higher than that.

Nah. Huawei 288s are 1.6m.

In reply to a post by MCM:

Bar something very strange going on councils approve the locations of every cabinet.

Tell that to Lambeth, or rather those on WRVAUX 54. Lambeth insisted that BT erect our gap-funded AIO cab on the opposite side of the street and then issued a section 58 notice that delayed the cab being connected holding up completion of the project for many months.

Some councils are a law entirely unto themselves. My own has done what it can to expedite delivery of broadband services in the area to the point where the VM presser mentioned how they had encouraged the investment by cutting red tape.

What a shame, now they can't see cars going past, or look into the windows of the people opposite.

It hardly blocks light, in the image you can see the shadow doesn't reach their window. It's not like they had picturesque views before.

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

I mean the document which Virgin claim that they sent to the council.

Bar something very strange going on councils approve the locations of every cabinet. Even in areas where the city is giving VM some latitude they still want to know where all structures are going to avoid safety issues.

Explain this please-Openreach (and I assume VM) don�t need planning permission to erect or move cabinets. Openreach often move cabinets without speaking to the council. I can think of an example at the moment where a copper cabinet is being moved over the road, it was on a list to be uplifted as it�s a complete mess. So the decision was taken to just move it over the road at the same time, and it�ll be right next to it�s fibre cabinet twin now. No permission was asked.

Edited by deleted (Sat 09-Sep-17 18:20:26)

In reply to a post by Icaras:

Explain this please-Openreach (and I assume VM) don�t need planning permission to erect or move cabinets. Openreach often move cabinets without speaking to the council. I can think of an example at the moment where a copper cabinet is being moved over the road, it was on a list to be uplifted as it�s a complete mess. So the decision was taken to just move it over the road at the same time, and it�ll be right next to it�s fibre cabinet twin now. No permission was asked.

Still need to put in a street works notice indicating the details of the work - the council can object to the siting and design even though they can't object to the work happening in principle. Openreach have to consider the objections.

If on a permit road the council can refuse to give a permit to work depending on the works in question.

Nah, the council can delay the streetworks permit but this is different to planning and changing plans. The council have no powers to stop Virgin building however poorly planned the works are.

Virgin have code powers. Like Openreach. they can pretty much build as they please. Virgin builds are all planned by sub contractors and built by sub contractors. This is clearly poorly planned and nobody is there to provide checks and balances.

Most people would object to his in their locale. It's just bad planning by Virgin subbies and the few Virgin peeps are too remote to get any kind of grip

In reply to a post by partial:

Nah, the council can delay the streetworks permit but this is different to planning and changing plans. The council have no powers to stop Virgin building however poorly planned the works are.

Virgin have code powers. Like Openreach. they can pretty much build as they please.

Authorities can attach conditions to providing of permits. If the operator refuses to agree to them they don't get a permit.

There are other remedies available too.

Certainly around here Virgin have worked closely with the city's highways group to agree siting of cabinets. Prior to starting work in my immediate area before any notices were put in a member of VM staff walked the route with a highways officer marking up cabinet, chamber and drop locations.

I take it this was a courtesy on the part of VM rather than a requirement, to avoid headaches later?

Yes, all courtesy. OR don�t liaise with councils at all, conservation areas are different as you need full planning permission there.

But Virgin are in a tricky spot. I was surprised to hear someone say all of their planning is contracted out, they love doing that don�t they? At least OR have local planners who decide where these cabinets go, and can go out and have a walk around the site.