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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 12:44:50
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P2P Throttling with BT Infinity 2 76mb


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For about a week I have experienced significant P2P throttling with my BT Infinity 2, daytime and nighttime (all hours from what i can see). I am an IT pro so over the last couple of days I have gone through checks internally and am confident it is nothing my end (changed test machines, changed router, changed software checked cabling). Typically the P2P software will max out my connection with sufficient seeds - I always perform tests using well known fantasy TV show as they are so widely shared world wide, but also test with legit content that ISP's and anti p2p companies would not target. The test results are the same.

Over the last six months my general downloads speeds have significantly dropped, according to my Sam Knows box results below around June 30th there was a significant drop but also a general trend since.:

SamKnows, download (combined) 6 months Analysis

I would hazard a guess that local network admins at BT have implemented this to try to address bandwidth issues to prevent customers who are approaching the threshold for not receiving the advertised product/service.

1) Has anyone else seem similar in similar conditions?
2) Am I correct in thinking that BT promised customers that throttling/traffic shaping was a thing of the past and they no longer did that?
3) Are there hard and fast bandwidth limits with which customers can challenge/leave their ISP if they not receiving the advertised service, or is that only for ADSL?
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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 12:47:55
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(staff) Sat 21-Oct-17 12:57:17
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Re: P2P Throttling with BT Infinity 2 76mb *DELETED*


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The hub is connected at what speeds?

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:00:20
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Re: P2P Throttling with BT Infinity 2 76mb


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Try one of the linux distros which are widely shared they should max the speed. Download 2 or 3 at once if on 76mbps: https://www.kali.org/downloads/

To confirm, BT do not throttle peer to peer, period.

What are you syncing at?

Edited by ukhardy07 (Sat 21-Oct-17 13:01:02)

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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:09:39
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His sig shows sync of 80/20
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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:12:40
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Try replacing the Hume hub 5 with a 3rd party modem/router
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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:17:21
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Currently Syncing at 67 down, 17.5 up

Neglected to add in op, my p2p speeds are >1mb. So whilst my sync rates have dropped - and perfectly correlate with my general download speeds - They do not account for the p2p speeds.

So this is two issues:

1) My sync rates and therefore overall performance has reduced by 15-20%
2) p2p unusable.

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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:17:59
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
Try replacing the Hume hub 5 with a 3rd party modem/router


I dont use a BT hub, i tested with it to confirm its not the cause, but I use a TD-W9980
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:27:10
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Can you try the 3 linix distros I posted. Still slow?
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:28:45
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
His sig shows sync of 80/20
Signatures go out of date, especially when cross-talk etc kicks in. I had noticed it, but likewise noted speedtests indicated slower sync.

Note the drop here:
https://imgur.com/a/7MZOE

Edited by ukhardy07 (Sat 21-Oct-17 13:29:20)

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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:41:19
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In reply to a post by mcompton69:
I dont use a BT hub, i tested with it to confirm its not the cause, but I use a TD-W9980
So your sig is completely wrong. What's the point?

Maybe the modem in the TD-W9980 is not up to the job
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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:47:47
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
In reply to a post by mcompton69:
I dont use a BT hub, i tested with it to confirm its not the cause, but I use a TD-W9980
So your sig is completely wrong. What's the point?

Maybe the modem in the TD-W9980 is not up to the job


??What are you saying, how does my modem affect sig??
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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:48:41
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In reply to a post by mcompton69:
I dont use a BT hub, i tested with it to confirm its not the cause
Is that a HH5A or HH5B?

What cabinet are you connected to, ECI or Huawei?
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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:49:25
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Oh right, i see. Yes my sig is out of date, i will delete it as it goes out of date as soon as i write it.

Read the content of my posts, they are up to date obviously..........
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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:50:27
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Can you try the 3 linix distros I posted. Still slow?


These are speeds using Ubuntu downloads

Ubuntu downloads
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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:57:46
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Going out, back sunday, will check back then.
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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 13:59:33
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
What cabinet are you connected to, ECI or Huawei?


ECI i am led to believe
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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 14:08:53
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So the modem chipset matches the cabinet, so no advantage to be gained there.
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(deleted) Sat 21-Oct-17 21:26:57
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No such throttling here. Infinity 2 currently synced 78.57 Mbps down and I regularly see 8MB/s or better.

Your reduction in speeds is quite possibly due to new users and a resulting increase in cross-talk.

Link will show the Downstream Handback Threshold for your line. Mine is 67Mbps. If you sync lower than the handback threshold you should be able to cancel your contract without penalty.
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sun 22-Oct-17 16:12:46
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Try out a different torrent program just to rule that out
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Sun 22-Oct-17 22:03:40
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Or a different torrent from another source the kali for me was not maxing out my connect, where as several other will max it
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