Going slightly off topic here, but any idea when BT retail (or other CPs) will start selling 500 Mbps and 1 Gbps services on FTTP? Its almost a year since Openreach announced them yet no ISP is selling these (AFAIK). Wouldn't mind one of the higher tier services mainly to get a significant increase in upload speeds (as high as 220 Mbps).

Edited by baby_frogmella (Sat 04-Nov-17 16:23:59)

This is good news.
When it comes to next February I'll be spending the £250 to get a quote. Obviously I'm expecting the build charge to be (very?) expensive, but I'd rather that as a one off cost rather than expensive monthly charges.

BT Retail cannot sell it because BT Wholesale don't offer it at the moment.

There was some dialogue between BT Wholesale and ISPs, but little interest was shown so they've not added those speeds at the moment.

I think a fair bit of work needs to be done to support those speeds (hardware/back end) at BT Wholesale's level, so there is probably no business case if there's not widespread ISP support.

Voucher schemes will sometimes only pay for install/upfront costs, so when this was spread over the term firms/people could not make best use of vouchers.

It cannot have escaped peoples notice that ultrafast or Gigabit vouchers are something that Government wants to hand out money for.

CityFibre et al are in a good position and this is Openreach making sure their position is similar.

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

Essentially the new pricing will encourage ISPs to find multiple customers in the same area who want FTTPoD. Exactly how this will work with ISPs remains to be seen.

OK, thanks that make more sense now.

Call me a cynic but I can't see much demand for multiple FTTP connections as suggested. And what will happen if BT (say) order a PON? Will they have rights to it and if I'm with another ISP I'd have to move over.

Too many known unknowns here. Actually, unknown unknowns. Probably better to wait til next year than speculate.

In reply to a post by Woolwich:

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

Essentially the new pricing will encourage ISPs to find multiple customers in the same area who want FTTPoD. Exactly how this will work with ISPs remains to be seen.

OK, thanks that make more sense now.

Call me a cynic but I can't see much demand for multiple FTTP connections as suggested. And what will happen if BT (say) order a PON? Will they have rights to it and if I'm with another ISP I'd have to move over.

Too many known unknowns here. Actually, unknown unknowns. Probably better to wait til next year than speculate.

Anything Openreach build under this is open access. The demand is not expected to come from residential customers but ISPs ordering for all their customers in a PON at once.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Someone remind me on 1st November 2018

You are reminded, as it is 1st November 2018.