I believe you have misunderstood, these 14 (in your case) properties aren�t all provided with an FTTP service just because you ordered FTTPoD

..... it means it would be possible for them to order FTTP if they wish after your order has been fulfilled.

In reply to a post by AK0086:

I guess OR aren't confident the ducts are clear, hence the £39K.

The 5 properties passed still makes no sense however. Even from the local cabinet there are more properties than that!

I wish people would stop thinking this quote of £39,000 is from Openreach. We have no idea what Openreach quoted to Cerberus.

What we know is that it is a very suspicious coincidence that so many are identical, all of them from Cerberus. Am I right in thinking all to retail customers as far as they are concerned?

As has been suggested, it looks more like a "Please go away" figure from Cerberus. I can think of two possible reasons.

One, they may well have decided like FluidOne and BT Consumer that retail is not the place to be on this. The customers are far harder to deal with and the throughput requirements even after the service is up and running

Two, they may also have received many requests from business prospects, who long-term are the bread and butter of niche providers on all forms of broadband and phone services. They could well want to accommodate them within their backhaul network in preference to retail capacity-swampers.

Bear in mind they have to get the data through to their own routers somehow - are they in fact using BT Wholesale to get there? In which case maybe it is they who are bumping up the price depending on their own network in various places. Then from Cerberus's routers it has to link to the wider internet.

I agree the number of properties passed seems to be a random number. I wonder if that's a reflection of how many of the actual number passed are on LLU ADSL2+, or simply non-BT ADSL2+/FTTC.

Thank you for answering about the £39,000 figure earlier.

I was wondering, how much would it take OR to build more aggregation nodes compared to the cost of cabinets?

If OR are adding more fibre would it show up on the roadworks.org site?

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Reality is that FoD takes a good number of hours and labour and it is this element that makes the civils behind a widespread FTTP roll-out expensive.

Particulary if you connect properties one at a time rather that connecting everyone in an area. At £39k + VAT moving house might be cheaper. I do wonder what speeds those then get these quotes are able to connect at using DSL?

What cabinets, FoD does not require construction of cabinets

If some of the work requires notification e.g. closure of footpath, traffic lights, duct clearing then yes would appear on roadworks.org usually

NOTE Premises passed Is NOT a count of all the ones the fibre passes, but the number that would be served by the final PON element, so I'd expect figures between a couple and 32 usually

When is the £3,000 DCMS voucher scheme due to go national? With an estimate of £3900, it would cover a huge chunk of the cost.

I think that's very unlikely indeed. If Cerberus are adding a mark-up to the quotes, it will be a % or fixed amount. They won't just round all orders up to £39k.
All those £39k orders will most likely have been identical figures from OpenReach, with any mark-up from Cerberus being the same for all.

OpenReach did originally price this on fixed distance bands. Seems more likely all these users are in 1 of the higher bands, which is why the quotes are the same.

I can't see any logic to them driving away residential customers. That just makes absolutely no sense. A number of the lower quotes are for residential customers, and a couple of the £39k quotes were business customers.

The £39,000 quotes are suggested to be because the quoting system will not quote beyond £39k, so someone who proceeds to the paid survey which is more in depth will reveal the price which may be even higher.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I believe you have misunderstood, these 14 (in your case) properties aren�t all provided with an FTTP service just because you ordered FTTPoD

..... it means it would be possible for them to order FTTP if they wish after your order has been fulfilled.

Yes indeed. What I am assuming is that the other 13 properties: (a) will appear on the availability checker as "FTTP available", and (b) they will be able to order it at the normal install charge (i.e. OR wholesale £92+VAT). That charge would be most likely swallowed by the service provider, who may even give them a £175 pre-paid Mastercard