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Standard User bobstaples
(learned) Fri 09-Mar-18 11:51:31
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ECI Cabinets and G.INP


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Is there any news on whether ECI cabinets will ever get G.INP?

I'm unfortunately on an ECI cabinet and my speed has download decreased over the years from 58 download to (now) 36Mbps. I know with a line attenuation of around 20 I'm not going to get really fast download speed with the current FTTC set up. I'm pretty sure I'll never get vectoring or other improvements until FTTP is available at an affordable cost.

Even a small improvement in my FTTC line speed would be helpful!!
Standard User j0hn83
(committed) Fri 09-Mar-18 12:01:39
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Re: ECI Cabinets and G.INP


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https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/12/openre...

The update suggests the rollout magically jumped from 30,000 to 600,000 users.
From my source, the rollout resumes at the end of this month.

Still yet to come across anyone on the initial rollout pre Xmas.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 09-Mar-18 12:38:35
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Re: ECI Cabinets and G.INP


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Speed tests don't show a slight up turn for ECI cabinets in Feb 2018, but within usual variance so need a few more months

The 4 Mbps difference on median speed between ECI and Huawei continues, and given Huawei was the dominant type in BDUK deployments where line lengths were longer overall, its even more surprising.

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Standard User j0hn83
(committed) Fri 09-Mar-18 12:43:35
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Re: ECI Cabinets and G.INP


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I've had my existing pair switched between the 2 cabinet types.
My line on the ECI DSLAM could not hold on to fastpath.
With Interleaving on ECI my sync is 36Mb.

My pair was then swapped to the new Huawei DSLAM.
Initially with interleaving the downstream sync was almost identical.
With G.INP, and a 3dB noise margin I'm now synced at 50.5Mb.

So I'm not surprised that Huawei lines (even though longer in general) outperform ECI lines.
Standard User R0NSKI
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 09-Mar-18 13:33:17
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Re: ECI Cabinets and G.INP


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
The 4 Mbps difference on median speed between ECI and Huawei continues, and given Huawei was the dominant type in BDUK deployments where line lengths were longer overall, its even more surprising.


Not surprising really, many BDUK cabs with long lines have vectoring enabled.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Mar-18 20:28:33
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Do we know if the rollout will still resume end of this of month or if ECI cabs will even get G.INP? Pretty much cannot go above 18mbps anymore as the line keeps doing occasional patterns of around 30-50 ES errors and 10 -30 SES errors then 10-30 UAS at the same time if above 18mbps. Hopefully G.INP will fix it as it is intermittent and i have an attainable of 29-30mbps which would be nice to have, if Openreach and ECI ever sort it out which I hope they do.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 26-Mar-18 21:19:58
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Hmm

UAS (unavailable seconds) of that amount usually means a resync happened.

I'm not sure that G.INP can fix that.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 27-Mar-18 01:38:43
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This tweet is from an author of an ISP news website that reported late last year on the current G.INP rollout schedule status. Seems we're still in for a wait.

https://twitter.com/ispreview/status/978151233512005634
Standard User Ixel
(committed) Tue 27-Mar-18 10:07:33
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I'm honestly expecting another delay, I hope not but at the same time I'm not getting my hopes up or getting excited at the prospect that those on the vaunted ECI DSLAM's will finally see G.INP and 3/4/5 dB.
Standard User bowdon
(committed) Tue 27-Mar-18 18:21:13
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Same here.

I'm wondering what priority G.INP on ECI cabinets is being given in light of G.fast pods and FTTP technologies.

Demon => Freeserve => Pipex => Be => Sky => BT Infinity 2
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 29-Mar-18 06:40:46
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Got some UAS and SES errors last night no resync though - not sure why this keeps happening its intermittent I suspect noise somewhere between me and cab which is why I hope G.INP will help with it. No doubt the DLM will cap me to 16000 soon which is getting silly. The LOS and LOF is from me rsyncing the modem just before start of link time. Any advice would be appreciated

# xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 1
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 5333 Kbps, Downstream rate = 29796 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 5328 Kbps, Downstream rate = 18000 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 10.9 6.0
Attn(dB): 24.5 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 5.8 5.8
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: 42 33
B: 47 80
M: 1 1
T: 41 45
R: 16 16
S: 0.0847 0.4829
L: 6048 1607
D: 765 67
I: 64 97
N: 64 97
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 65762119 501885
OHFErr: 5357 9
RS: 3292533255 3793317
RSCorr: 3827556 55483
RSUnCorr: 548326 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 143423 0
OCD: 10613 0
LCD: 10613 0
Total Cells: 3287345881 0
Data Cells: 330711016 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 165 686
SES: 45 0
UAS: 165 130
AS: 343699

Bearer 0
INP: 8.00 2.50
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 16 8
PER: 5.22 16.36
OR: 73.46 19.06
AgR: 18073.40 5346.82

Bitswap: 235118/235304 426/430

Total time = 1 days 19 hours 27 min 12 sec
FEC: 16137322 121735
CRC: 7976 850
ES: 165 686
SES: 45 0
UAS: 165 130
LOS: 1 0
LOF: 8 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 12 min 12 sec
FEC: 4427 105
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 7622 107
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 19 hours 27 min 12 sec
FEC: 1485911 9677
CRC: 4509 0
ES: 42 0
SES: 26 0
UAS: 25 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 725085 18831
CRC: 91 1
ES: 14 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 3 days 23 hours 28 min 43 sec
FEC: 3827556 55483
CRC: 5357 9
ES: 78 8
SES: 31 0
UAS: 25 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
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