After many years of waiting

There may be some light at the end of the tunnel.

Had a BT Fibre van round a couple of weeks ago with his laptop working out how much it would cost BT to get FTTP into our village.

He actually told me we would be going ahead and live in 6 to 12 month for sure after the work was done.

Several notices have been displayed around our village stating new BT Poles are being put in due to line upgrades.

I then asked him why for almost 20 years have we been told "Too far from the exchange" and now its looking likely we just might be stepping through the barrier into the 20th century.

He told me new technology was available and he was instructed to get things rolling regarding cost etc.

On the Fibre checker it now says this...�.

The cabinet that serves your premises is live, but your speeds aren't as fast as we'd like them to be. Your area has been reviewed and there is a plan to do further work to increase speeds via FTTP technology.

We follow a different design and build process for FTTP so you won't see updates at each stage. As soon as we have built the network and made services available, you will see an 'Accepting Orders' message.

Is it too soon to start celebrating or is it just more tumbleweed blowing down the road for us.

Exchange name: Arthington
Exchange status: Fibre enabled
Cabinet number: 4
Technology: -

Any help good or bad would be nice.

BTW I registered on this site many many years ago and Mr Saffron was giving out good advise and help way back then. Good work sir.

For now it is keep an eye out for new kits of kit appearing on the poles

The new technology is probably referring to the connectorised fibre, i.e. its stronger and easier to handle so faster to deploy and that means lower costs, no fusion splicing which can be fiddly, but simple connectors

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

For now it is keep an eye out for new kits of kit appearing on the poles

The new technology is probably referring to the connectorised fibre, i.e. its stronger and easier to handle so faster to deploy and that means lower costs, no fusion splicing which can be fiddly, but simple connectors

All is not lost then, is it wrong to get excited about having high speed internet after many years of snail pace broadband.

I would get mildly hopeful at this time, plans do change or unforeseen problems can occur that cause plans to change

I wouldn't put too much relevance on the Openreach "stages" on their checker.

In my case my address was coming up as 1st stage "No plan for the area", which didn't sound hopeful at all, but in actual fact there was very much a plan and the network was still being built out as one day it updated straight to WBC FTTP available to order.

As mentioned probably best to keep an eye out for kit appearing on poles, and checking addresses on the DSL checker.

In reply to a post by busterboy:

I then asked him why for almost 20 years have we been told "Too far from the exchange" and now its looking likely we just might be stepping through the barrier into the 20th century.

Once it's installed we'll welcome you to the 21st century ;`-)

Hi, I`d be a little bit cautious and wait to celebrate until you see actual work being done, my area had the same "plan to upgrade to FTTP" message for almost a year with work being shown as to complete by end of June `18. June came and went and the checker then returned to the "exploring options" message with no explanation of why or what changed. Trying to find out any further information has proved very difficult. Hopefully this will not be the case with you and you can enter the 21st century ! Good Luck.

Very true, the OR stages for fibre a mess, and if an area is going to get fttp, its normally only shown for properties that are too far for ftcc. In my case 2 properties in an adjoining road (awaits Mr Safron to completely debunk this - )

Also things are prone to change, the duct clearing for instance may be shifted. Ours has been pushed back a month!

Edited by Taras (Fri 07-Sep-18 11:12:32)

In reply to a post by Taras:

Very true, the OR stages for fibre a mess, and if an area is going to get fttp, its normally only shown for properties that are too far for ftcc. In my case 2 properties in an adjoining road (awaits Mr Safron to completely debunk this - )

Also things are prone to change, the duct clearing for instance may be shifted. Ours has been pushed back a month!

Its a fact I live out in the sticks (5 kilometres from the exchange) and actually got my mind set it will never happen.

I can only hope it does happen whether it be 6 month or 2 years it will make me happy.

Fingers crossed for you!

Am I correct in what he told me.

With FTTP there is no loss in speed due to the line length "ie" Choose how far away from the exchange I am I will get over 300mbps according to the chap when I was speaking to him.

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In reply to a post by busterboy:

Am I correct in what he told me.

With FTTP there is no loss in speed due to the line length "ie" Choose how far away from the exchange I am I will get over 300mbps according to the chap when I was speaking to him.

Absolutely correct: as long as you're in optical range, you get the same speed regardless of distance.

The technology is called Gigabit Passive Optical Network (GPON), and the device which lights the fibre at the far end is called the Optical Line Termination (OLT).

In fact, the link runs at 2.4Gbps downstream and 1.2Gbps upstream, and your traffic is shaped to limit it to the speed you've paid for.

However, one OLT port is shared between up to 32 subscribers. So there's a degree of oversubscription: you couldn't have all 32 users on one OLT port downloading at 330Mbps at the same time, given that the overall limit is 2.4Gbps. In practice, you are quite unlikely to see slowdowns because of this.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by busterboy:

Am I correct in what he told me.

With FTTP there is no loss in speed due to the line length "ie" Choose how far away from the exchange I am I will get over 300mbps according to the chap when I was speaking to him.

Absolutely correct: as long as you're in optical range, you get the same speed regardless of distance.

The technology is called Gigabit Passive Optical Network (GPON), and the device which lights the fibre at the far end is called the Optical Line Termination (OLT).

In fact, the link runs at 2.4Gbps downstream and 1.2Gbps upstream, and your traffic is shaped to limit it to the speed you've paid for.

However, one OLT port is shared between up to 32 subscribers. So there's a degree of oversubscription: you couldn't have all 32 users on one OLT port downloading at 330Mbps at the same time, given that the overall limit is 2.4Gbps. In practice, you are quite unlikely to see slowdowns because of this.

Thank you for your in-depth reply, Helps me understand how it works.

Are you connected to MOORTOWN EXCHANGE "MYMOO"

Looks like everyone on this exchange is being connected to fibre.

In reply to a post by Brunel:

Are you connected to MOORTOWN EXCHANGE "MYMOO"

Looks like everyone on this exchange is being connected to fibre.

Pool in Wharfedale Brunel.

Exchange name: Arthington
Exchange status: Fibre enabled
Cabinet number: 4
Technology: -

You are approximately 3.94km from the exchange. Note that this is the straight line distance -the actual cable length will be longer!

There are four entries for "FTTC doing Field Survey" for Arthington exchange on Codelook

Cabinet P11 - FTTC doing Field Survey, live due by May 2019 - Phase SEP West Yorkshire 22a
Exchange 3 - FTTC doing Field Survey, live due by March 2019 - Phase SEP West Yorkshire 22a
Exchange 10 - FTTC doing Field Survey, live due by March 2019 - Phase SEP West Yorkshire 22a
Exchange 13 - FTTC doing Field Survey, live due by March 2019 - Phase SEP West Yorkshire 22a

P11 looks like it could be a new cabinet, no postcode entry. Perhaps that's yours?

It's worth keeping an eye on it here...

https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm?xid=8...

After years of being told that there was no hope, we ended up with FTTP for the first half the village last year, which appeared with no warning whatsoever, and a new AIO FTTC cabinet last month for the half furthest from the exchange.

Fingers crossed for FTTP!

Edited by sparky_paul (Sun 09-Sep-18 11:43:58)

In reply to a post by sparky_paul:

There are four entries for "FTTC doing Field Survey" for Arthington exchange on Codelook

Cabinet P11 - FTTC doing Field Survey, live due by May 2019 - Phase SEP West Yorkshire 22a
Exchange 3 - FTTC doing Field Survey, live due by March 2019 - Phase SEP West Yorkshire 22a
Exchange 10 - FTTC doing Field Survey, live due by March 2019 - Phase SEP West Yorkshire 22a
Exchange 13 - FTTC doing Field Survey, live due by March 2019 - Phase SEP West Yorkshire 22a

P11 looks like it could be a new cabinet, no postcode entry. Perhaps that's yours?

It's worth keeping an eye on it here...

https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm?xid=8...

After years of being told that there was no hope, we ended up with FTTP for the first half the village last year, which appeared with no warning whatsoever, and a new AIO FTTC cabinet last month for the half furthest from the exchange.

Fingers crossed for FTTP!

Thank you for this info Paul, Really appreciate it.

Nice to hear stories like yours having a happy ending.