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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 10-Sep-18 09:15:25
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Sky to finally sell Openreach FTTP (& G.Fast)


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Sky are at last going to sell Openreach's FTTP (& G.Fast) services, according to an article in today's Daily Telegraph:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/09/09/sky-...

Likely good news for those who like to flip-flop between suppliers every 18mo to take advantage of best offers and say, live in a new build with FTTP only.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 10-Sep-18 09:50:49
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Sounds good. TalkTalk will probably have to follow as well when Sky sales figures start coming out.

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Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Mon 10-Sep-18 09:51:42
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I don't fancy paying the Torygraph to read their articles.

edit: or giving them my details, looks like it's free. Just stick up ads like anyone else.

Edited by j0hn83 (Mon 10-Sep-18 09:53:34)


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Standard User candlerb
(member) Mon 10-Sep-18 10:13:26
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In reply to a post by j0hn83:
I don't fancy paying the Torygraph to read their articles.


Also reported here: https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/09/isp-sk...

BTW, Talktalk are already selling G.fast (although it seems you can't order it online - you have to phone)
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 10-Sep-18 10:30:33
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TalkTalk also plan to roll out a nationwide FTTP network in partnership with others, though at present details are thin. I guess this decreases the chances of TT offering their services over Openreach FTTP.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 10-Sep-18 10:38:12
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Will be fascinating to see if Sky also offer their tv services purely over FTTP. My guess is yes they will but probably at least a decade away before we can bin those ugly Sky dishes smile
Standard User DougM
(committed) Mon 10-Sep-18 10:45:05
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Might be sooner than you think...

https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/26/sky-q-no-satelli...

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Standard User simon194
(experienced) Mon 10-Sep-18 11:14:34
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That was misreporting by the press.

Sky on their own forum have confirmed there are no plans to scrap Sky via satellite. The dishless version of Sky Q is aimed at those where it is not possible to have a dish installed such as in conservation areas.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 11-Sep-18 21:46:13
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Biggest broadband news of the year. Now there are two serious players on the Openreach platform. Lessens the risk of fibre bubble.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 12-Sep-18 10:34:47
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Yep, completely agree.

Standard User acting_funny
(member) Wed 12-Sep-18 11:04:54
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so anyone attempted a FTTP migration yet? smile
Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Wed 12-Sep-18 11:46:42
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In reply to a post by acting_funny:
so anyone attempted a FTTP migration yet? smile


They aren't selling it yet.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 12-Sep-18 12:32:03
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Not officially, we have seen what look like FTTP customers e.g. new build with only FTTP present but those were at the 40 and 80 speed points.

The change now will be introduction of ultrafast speed points, and perhaps no coincidence that Vodafone are ramping up their FTTP PR and the full fibre is the one true fibre religion that is forming.

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Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Wed 12-Sep-18 16:51:17
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I know staff members have been using it for a while. Probably some targeted trials too.
It definitely isn't live for orders/migrations yet though, or wasn't early this morning.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 12-Sep-18 23:48:31
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Not officially, we have seen what look like FTTP customers e.g. new build with only FTTP present but those were at the 40 and 80 speed points.

The change now will be introduction of ultrafast speed points, and perhaps no coincidence that Vodafone are ramping up their FTTP PR and the full fibre is the one true fibre religion that is forming.


Fibre To The Press Release is taking hold in the UK nicely. In the absence of fibre being pushed deeper into the access networks of either VM or Openreach, and VM spending a bunch of cash on the latest and greatest DOCSIS kit, it looks as though full fibre is going to be the way to roll.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 13-Sep-18 11:54:45
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I've recently moved into a new build which only has an FTTP connection. We were originally hoping to go with Sky so this is good news to us. How long do you reckon it could be until Sky would be ready to provide to us? From what I understand it could be a while for new connections but seeing as we already have an FTTP connection would it take long?
Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Thu 13-Sep-18 13:26:38
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It depends how quick Sky have jumped the gun on their Press release.
They may be ready to roll in a few weeks.

If they have issued that Press release straight away before any work has been done then it could be a few months to get the ordering systems up to scratch and train their sales/support staff.

I don't think having existing FTTP or not will make the slightest bit of difference.
Only Sky will be able to answer your question and they are being tight lipped on a date.

Edited by j0hn83 (Thu 13-Sep-18 13:27:22)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 13-Sep-18 13:54:41
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I seem to remember that FTTP also requires the provider to have dedicated GEA cables in the exchange. That it doesn't go through the FTTC GEA links.

I'm fairly sure that was the case, but maybe it was just in the early days to make problem diagnosis easier by separating the two, and is no longer so. If it is so then of course Sky will have to activate exchanges they want to target.


Edit: See MrSaffron's reply.

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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 13-Sep-18 15:32:56)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 13-Sep-18 14:17:34
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With the rise of the 10 Gbps cable links, sharing became possible

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 13-Sep-18 15:31:18
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Ta! smile

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Standard User acting_funny
(member) Fri 14-Sep-18 03:26:05
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yeah, i wonder if anyone tried a FTTP migration at all? and how successful it was, etc.

i can't fault BT's infinity3+4/g.fast service, always had very good throughput and latency. if prices start to come down with sky/tt entering the game then i would consider switching if the migration process works.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 14-Sep-18 12:37:03
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Thought I would start a new post to make it easier to find information about FTTP migrations:

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/f/4601009-ftt...
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Dec-18 12:40:11
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Has there been any more info on a date for this? Sky website still doesn't list my address so guessing it hasn't happened yet...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 05-Dec-18 12:57:41
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Are you in a fibre only location? If a very new postcode it may just be they've not got the list of postcodes and addresses into their system

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