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Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Fri 04-Jan-19 13:11:22
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Re: FTTP 1000/220 Exchanges


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because the fibre originates at that Head-End.... but it isn't pulled in 1 giant length from there.

There are fibre aggregation nodes inbetween, roughly 1 for every 3 or 4 FTTC cabinets.
Unless you have no FTTC cabinets for the 8km between you and the head-end.... which is unlikely.

I wasn't arguing with you over where the fibre originates, just trying to be helpful and educate that it isn't pulled from there.
It comes from fibre Aggregation Nodes which will be much closer.
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Fri 04-Jan-19 16:18:57
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Re: FTTP 1000/220 Exchanges


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In reply to a post by adslmax:
Ditton Priors exchange got WBC FTTP 1000/220 in Bridgnorth Shropshire served by Cabinet 2 (WV16 6SE)

Only 1 address on that postcode shows that speed, 3 show the 330:30 and 2 show no fibre at all.
So I am thinking it might be a mistake.

Paul

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Exchange Name: Ilford Central (LNILC) Cabinet: 24
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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Fri 04-Jan-19 16:38:24
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Re: FTTP 1000/220 Exchanges


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Agreed.

When I copy very large files to our in house servers over a Gbit LAN here I will see about 800 to 850Mbps at max.
This is not the drives, they are capable for that speeds, but in this case its the Lan Cards being just a Gbit due to the headers in the network packets etc.

So I am also guessing it would be the same for 1Gbit Fibre, that would be why I would never get the 1Gbit if BT was selling it, sure the 550:165 and that would be just for the up stream.

Paul

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 14-Jan-19 11:44:31
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Re: FTTP 1000/220 Exchanges


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Got 330/50 from Cerberus.

The checker spits out this:
Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:- Multi Dwelling Unit Residential UG Feed with no anticipated issues.

ONT exists with active service. A spare port is available. Network is at capacity so a new ONT cannot be ordered.


I assume that is one of the market/wholesale restrictions due to capacity?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 14-Jan-19 11:52:23
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In reply to a post by mauimauer:
Got 330/50 from Cerberus.

The checker spits out this:
Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:- Multi Dwelling Unit Residential UG Feed with no anticipated issues.

ONT exists with active service. A spare port is available. Network is at capacity so a new ONT cannot be ordered.


I assume that is one of the market/wholesale restrictions due to capacity?


I think that means your fibre DP is full or the exchange has ran out of ports. Obviously it doesn't affect you, unless ordering a 2nd FTTP line.

Edit: Need to visit Specsavers! frown

Edited by deleted (Mon 14-Jan-19 12:05:35)

Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-Jan-19 12:10:05
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Re: FTTP 1000/220 Exchanges


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In reply to a post by mauimauer:
Got 330/50 from Cerberus.

The checker spits out this:
Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:- Multi Dwelling Unit Residential UG Feed with no anticipated issues.

ONT exists with active service. A spare port is available. Network is at capacity so a new ONT cannot be ordered.


I assume that is one of the market/wholesale restrictions due to capacity?

In your case, surely it should say for you the following:
ONT exists with active service. A spare port is not available. Network is at capacity so a new ONT cannot be ordered.

The reason that I say that is due to if its at capacity then there is not a free port.
Unless the free port part is referring to the spare fibres that get blown from the DP in the chamber to the CSP on the property wall (assuming its the old 2 stage install) then yeah there will be 3 spare ports.

But yeah, I was wondering that the other day, due to there are about at max 6 fibres used on our pole leaving a possible 26 fibre strands assuming they will install an additional DP and manifold(s) at the top of the pole to cater for the remaining fibres.

I know this due to our pole is the only one connected to our Splitter Node, the top half of our road and its side roads all use a different Splitter Node located round the corner.

Which is why I think we are seeing the following for our address:
Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:- Single Dwelling Unit Residential OH Feed with no anticipated issues.

ONT exists with active service. A spare port is available. A new ONT may be ordered.

So hopefully that will allow if we wanted to get additional FTTP connections (not that we need to) and also where we are seeing 1000:220 which will allow for faster speeds once BT decide to start selling the Ultrafast 3 and 4 products.

But I think 300 - 330Mbps (down stream) is fine but to be honest I wouldn't mind more upstream, but at the moment what we have is fine.

Paul

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Edited by PaulKirby (Mon 14-Jan-19 12:16:22)

Standard User candlerb
(committed) Mon 14-Jan-19 12:30:54
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Re: FTTP 1000/220 Exchanges


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You don't have a 4-port ONT do you? In case that's the "spare ports" it's talking about.
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-Jan-19 12:38:15
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In reply to a post by candlerb:
You don't have a 4-port ONT do you? In case that's the "spare ports" it's talking about.

Ah, forgot about the other 3 ports on the ONT, yeah I do.

Paul

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 21-May-19 06:52:27
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FWIW, my exchange (NDLEY) showed up as having:

FTTP on Demand 330 30

on the BT checker. Now that my FTTPoD order is nearing completion, it's changed to:

FTTP on Demand 1000 220

The neighbouring houses connected to my pole and the next pole along the road have also changed to say the same things. Houses in the neighbouring roads (and the pub at the end of my road) still say 330/30.

So, if someone else on the same exchange had been checking the odds are they'd still be seeing 330/30, blissfully unaware that it's actually capable of 1000/220 connections.

I would imagine this is a relatively common situation in the world of FTTPoD at least!
Standard User candlerb
(committed) Tue 21-May-19 07:24:15
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As I understand it: BT Wholesale only used to offer a 330/30 FTTPoD product. Now they also offer a 1000/220 and a 500/165. But you won't see the change until a property's database entry is updated for some reason.
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