Is my ping higher than it should be?

I am with talktalk on the 36mb fibre package (FTTC). I am about 100 meters from my green cabinet and use wired connection, I have tested at different times when I am the only one using the internet and get 25 ping. I know this isn't bad but I feel like it should be under 20 comparing to other peoples speed test results and how close I am to the cabinet. My speeds are also fine. I live in cumbria so a bit out of the way, would that make a difference?

Could moving to a different ISP improve my ping?

Any input or advice I would really appreciate, thanks for reading.

Edited by deleted (Tue 01-Jan-19 21:06:37)

Distance to the cabinet is not the factor that matters here.

I live in cumbria so a bit out of the way, would that make a difference?

Yes, it's the main factor.

Those in London tend to have sub 10ms latency, those above the Scottish central belt over 20ms. North half of England tends to be anywhere inbetween, 10-20ms.

Most things you ping go to London and back.

Low interleaving adds 8ms on to the line automatically.
So if you are interleaved and managed to remove interleaving you would improve from 25ms to 17ms immediately.

FTTP can be a couple ms better than FTTC but the difference isn't huge.

My guess is you are interleaved.
17ms would be about right for your part of the country.

edit : typos

Edited by j0hn83 (Tue 01-Jan-19 21:08:06)

In N.Ireland on FTTC i got 18-20ms on Cable i get 23-25ms

I am on FTTP with BT and like already said FTTP should have a better latency / ping than FTTC from the same location, I am located in London about 4 to 5 miles by road from Telehouse London Data Centre and I get the following:

[BBC Site]
ping -4 bbc.co.uk

Pinging bbc.co.uk [151.101.64.81] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 151.101.64.81:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 3ms

[Google]
ping -4 google.com

Pinging google.com [216.58.204.78] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 216.58.204.78: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=54
Reply from 216.58.204.78: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=54
Reply from 216.58.204.78: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=54
Reply from 216.58.204.78: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 216.58.204.78:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 4ms

[One of TBB Speed Test addresses]
ping -4 speedtest8.thinkbroadband.com

Pinging speedtest8.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.73] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 80.249.99.73: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.249.99.73: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.249.99.73: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.249.99.73: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 80.249.99.73:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 2ms

When I log into World of Warcraft EU Servers I get about 8 to 10ms, I think they are located in either France or Germany, and about 95 to 140ms on the US Servers (have no clue where these are located).

TBH I don't think the 25ms Ping that you are getting is that bad.

Paul

I am also on the talktalk 36mb fibre package (FTTC) I also live in South Cumbria and these are my results -



Pinging bbc.co.uk

Reply from 151.101.192.81: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56
Reply from 151.101.192.81: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56
Reply from 151.101.192.81: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56
Reply from 151.101.192.81: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56



Pinging google.com

Reply from 216.58.213.68: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=55
Reply from 216.58.213.68: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=55
Reply from 216.58.213.68: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=55
Reply from 216.58.213.68: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=55



Pinging speedtest8.thinkbroadband.com

Reply from 80.249.99.73: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.249.99.73: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.249.99.73: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.249.99.73: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56

Hi thanks for your reply, I checked my broadband stats and it says im not interleaved.

DSL synchronization status:
Up
Connection status:
Showtime
Upstream line rate (kbit/s):
9995
Downstream line rate (kbit/s):
39994
Maximum upstream rate (kbit/s):
26672
Maximum downstream rate (kbit/s):
76124
Upstream noise safety coefficient (dB):
16.3
Downstream noise safety coefficient (dB):
12.9
Upstream interleave depth:
0
Downstream interleave depth:
0
Line standard:
VDSL
Upstream line attenuation (dB):
0
Downstream line attenuation (dB):
0
Upstream output power (dBm):
-5.3
Downstream output power (dBm):
-5.3
Channel type:
None
DSL up-time:
3 days 15 hours 32 minutes 40 seconds

I have tried the test socket and same results. 25 ping is definitely ok but lower would be nice of course. Thanks again

Hi thanks for replying, nice to compare with someone close to me (I am in Barrow), these are my results. Are you on the fast channel type or also none like me?

Pinging bbc.co.uk [151.101.64.81] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=55
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=55
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=55
Reply from 151.101.64.81: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=55

Pinging google.com [216.58.206.110] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 216.58.206.110: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=53
Reply from 216.58.206.110: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=53
Reply from 216.58.206.110: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=53
Reply from 216.58.206.110: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=53

Pinging speedtest8.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.101.60] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 80.249.101.60: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=55
Reply from 80.249.101.60: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=55
Reply from 80.249.101.60: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=55
Reply from 80.249.101.60: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=55

Things like using the test socket make no difference.

It's not the very short run of copper that make the difference it's the hundreds of miles of fibre and all the equipment inbetween.

I get the same 16ms being around 1000m from my cabinet as my friend who is 50m from the same cabinet.
I'm in central Scotland, which is great for where I am.

It does sound high for where in the country you are though.
As you can see the Chippy_Tea gets 15ms from the same ISP in the same general area.
Changing 1 meter of copper cable will make no difference though.
A better router might, but unlikely.

You're either on fastpath or G.INP with no added latency, or interleaving with minimum 8ms added latency.

There is no none, just the Talktalk kit doesn't specify.

Edited by j0hn83 (Wed 02-Jan-19 13:27:43)

In reply to a post by LyndonLauder:

Hi thanks for replying, nice to compare with someone close to me (I am in Barrow), these are my results. Are you on the fast channel type or also none like me?

I am in Ulverston so only 8 miles away (for those not familiar with the area) i cannot find interleaving in the modem stats so cannot help i did find when i switched from the TT HG633 which was awful to the D-Link 3782 things got a lot better but i cannot remember if my ping improved.