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Standard User stuorguk
(member) Wed 26-Jun-19 21:45:52
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What street furniture is used for FTTP?


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We have had FTTC for years, G.Fast 6 months (for the few houses close enough), and now a new cab has appeared. Looks the same as the FTTC cab. So that's three, including the bolt-on G.Fast.

Is this extra FTTC capacity, or could it be FTTP?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 26-Jun-19 22:00:11
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Openreach don't use cabinets for FTTP so this is extra ports for VDSL2 most likely

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Standard User stuorguk
(member) Wed 26-Jun-19 22:05:05
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Surly FTTP must terminate somewhere?


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 26-Jun-19 22:16:24
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Via poles or underground chambers it will head back to a handover exchange.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 26-Jun-19 22:23:13
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Re: What street furniture is used for FTTP?


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The route FTTP cabling usually takes is

exchange >> fibre aggregation node >> fibre splitter node >> fibre distribution node/point >> user premises

The whole route can be underground or a mixture of u/g & a/g.

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Standard User burble
(member) Thu 27-Jun-19 00:35:11
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With the FTTP in our area, aside from the fibre going up the pole there is no other above ground sign of it. The nodes all appear to be in underground chambers.
Standard User candlerb
(committed) Thu 27-Jun-19 08:22:56
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In reply to a post by burble:
With the FTTP in our area, aside from the fibre going up the pole there is no other above ground sign of it. The nodes all appear to be in underground chambers.


That is correct. Fibre aggregation nodes and splitter nodes sit in underground chambers (or on poles), and are completely passive - no power required.

You can see them in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_gUBw8gh90&feature=...
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 27-Jun-19 13:05:28
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Definitely extra FTTC capacity.

Codelook should show your cabinet as "Being expanded".
Standard User Alucidnation
(member) Sat 29-Jun-19 07:12:22
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Slightly OT, but I have just retuned from a trip to Cornwall where there is a lot of native FTTP in the small villages, and some of the installations there are horrendous.

Mostly where the cables/micro duct has been pulled from a chamber and barely clipped to the wall up to the soffits etc, hanging and swinging in the breeze.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 29-Jun-19 08:49:51
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Like the telephone and mains power cables? smile

Oh, and the publicly accessible oil and gas tanks at ground level? wink

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 29-Jun-19 09:25:31
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Also with minimum turn radius you will see deliberate looping of blown fibre tubing.

Need to see the pictures as words give impression of clip at ground level and one at eaves and tube blowing around in the wind like a flag

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 29-Jun-19 09:53:46
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The poster does have a point though about rather insecure installations in Cornwall, from both the physical and vandal-prone aspects. I have several photos on my phone somewhere that I might be able to dig out of very dodgy stuff there.

I might see if I can find a few over the weekend. A couple in particular I did intend to upload and link to for Openreach contacts here but never got round to.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 29-Jun-19 16:55:43
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If there are safety concerns residents need to take it up via provider or via https://www.openreach.com/help-and-support/damage-he...

In terms of vandals what about all those houses with entry points just above pavement and no front garden - middle of night and one pair of snips 100's of cable or phone lines could be damaged.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 29-Jun-19 23:37:24
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
In terms of vandals what about all those houses with entry points just above pavement and no front garden - middle of night and one pair of snips 100's of cable or phone lines could be damaged.
Which has of course always been the case with VM cable and its many ancestors.

I'm talking more about cables and splitters near to or on telegraph poles below head height. (Not danger to people). As I said, I need to find some of my photos.

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