FTTP Phone line

I am moving soon and the property is FTTP only, I have contacted Zen and the can supply me broadband only as there is no phone line, they are telling me that only BT can do the phone and broadband together, has anybody else come across this issue and what did you do ? I could just use my mobile but would like the option of a phone line
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We are with BT so when FTTP became available to order we moved everything over to it, including the phone line.

The main reason for moving everything over to fibre was our copper line is in very poor state and there not being any spare good pairs left.
Also every time it become windy or it rained heavy we lost broadband (ADSL2+) and then our phone line.

So now our copper line is terminated at the first BT junction box (BT-80) and our Master Socket is connected to our ONT and we have had no issues since.

You could look around to see what phone provider supplies FVA (Fibre Voice Access) I am sure there are some out there.

Paul

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I am moving soon and the property is FTTP only, I have contacted Zen and the can supply me broadband only as there is no phone line, they are telling me that only BT can do the phone and broadband together, has anybody else come across this issue and what did you do ? I could just use my mobile but would like the option of a phone line
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I assume Zen have told you that they can't supply a voice service over FTTP like BT Retail can (called FVA). However there's plenty of third party VOIP services which you can run over FTTP such as Vonage. Cheaper as well than a traditional landline over copper or BT's FVA service

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You could look around to see what phone provider supplies FVA (Fibre Voice Access) I am sure there are some out there.

Only BTR consume FVA from OR today, and Wholesale refused to sell it to SPs, so it was killed before it could be taken up.

Openreach have (now publicly) announced a stop sell on FVA from March 2020, so don't expect it to be around in a couple of years.

IP Voice via a pure SIP or router integrated ATA is likely to be the norm, and aligns with the WLR close-down strategy.

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However there's plenty of third party VOIP services which you can run over FTTP such as Vonage. Cheaper as well than a traditional landline over copper or BT's FVA service

TalkTalk all day land line and mobile on FTTC costs £6.50/month. Equivalent Vonage package £12/month

In reply to a post by Blmcg:

Openreach have (now publicly) announced a stop sell on FVA from March 2020, so don't expect it to be around in a couple of years.

Thanks, that probably explains why the voice port no longer exists on the latest ONT (1+0).

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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

However there's plenty of third party VOIP services which you can run over FTTP such as Vonage. Cheaper as well than a traditional landline over copper or BT's FVA service

TalkTalk all day land line and mobile on FTTC costs £6.50/month. Equivalent Vonage package £12/month

But how much would TalkTalk charge you for a standalone landline + unlimited landline/mobile calls? Pretty sure it would be considerably more than 12 notes p/m , just like BT Retail's offering.

Is it Talk Talk FTTP then ?

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In reply to a post by burble:

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

However there's plenty of third party VOIP services which you can run over FTTP such as Vonage. Cheaper as well than a traditional landline over copper or BT's FVA service

TalkTalk all day land line and mobile on FTTC costs £6.50/month. Equivalent Vonage package £12/month

But how much would TalkTalk charge you for a standalone landline + unlimited landline/mobile calls? Pretty sure it would be considerably more than 12 notes p/m , just like BT Retail's offering.

My point was that Vonage and such like are charging considerably more to add a comprehensive phone package to FTTP than TalkTalk charge to add a similar package to FTTC or ADSL. There was once a time when VOIP was the cheap option, at least when phoning overseas, not sure this is still the case.

I have FTTP and ported my phone number to sipgate - there is no monthly charge and I just pay the call rate (around 1p/min for UK landlines) with an occasional auto top-up when my credit falls below £5. You can also buy monthly unlimited call packages if you prefer.

I connected my existing DECT phone via a CISCO SPA122 adapter which is connected to my router.