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Standard User Cazo
(newbie) Tue 10-Sep-19 18:24:01
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FTTP On Demand?


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We're moving house to a semi rural location, well we were until my husband found out the broadband speed at the new house and now he's not so sure !

We currently get about 17mbs upload and 33mbs download which he isn't thrilled with but the new house is only about 10mbs.

I don't know much about broadband speed but apparently 10mbs is not good enough.

There is FTTC but not FTTP and no plans for it to come to the house. We looked into a lease line but that was £500 a month ! And that didn't even include installation and we would need a server room!

A friend said we should look at FTTP on demand. I don't even know where to start or who to contact to find out if it's possible. Is there anything else I could consider?

Any advice gratefully received.

Thank you.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 10-Sep-19 20:06:33
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These guys would be your best bet .....

https://www.cerberusnetworks.co.uk/?gclid=EAIaIQobCh...

Standard User R0NSKI
(knowledge is power) Tue 10-Sep-19 20:47:18
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Re: FTTP On Demand?


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Also take a look at this thread, and the earlier ones linked to.

https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/f/4620016-ft...

Be prepared for a rather large price, quotes have been from a few thousand up to about £30k, but one way to look at it is the house worth that much more?

Other options include 4G if you have good reception - see https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/mobilebroadband.html




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Standard User dect
(committed) Tue 10-Sep-19 20:51:42
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Re: FTTP On Demand?


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Keep in mind that FTTPoD isn't an instant solution as the installation can sometimes take 18 months or so.

1) Get a desktop quote from a FTTPoD provider (to be honest this is more of a guesstimate).
2) If your still interested pay the £250+VAT for a full survey that will give you a more accurate quote.
3) Accept the quote and wait for the installation to occur.
Standard User candlerb
(experienced) Tue 10-Sep-19 22:00:07
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In reply to a post by dect:
Keep in mind that FTTPoD isn't an instant solution as the installation can sometimes take 18 months or so.

1) Get a desktop quote from a FTTPoD provider (to be honest this is more of a guesstimate).
2) If your still interested pay the £250+VAT for a full survey that will give you a more accurate quote.
3) Accept the quote and wait for the installation to occur.


A few other bits of info.

There are pretty much only two choices to buy FTTPoD through: Cerberus and FluidOne. There's also Amvia who just resell Cerberus, and Syscomm who only cover parts of the Midlands.

With a bit of luck, the final price after survey may be lower than the original guesstimate. See results reported in this forum tabulated here. If you run a small business from home, you may qualify for a £2500 gigabit voucher grant towards installation.

With FTTPoD, you pay a slightly higher rate than normal for the first year of service - with Cerberus it's £100+VAT per month for 330/30. After that, you're free to take any standard FTTP package at any speed, from the same provider or a different one.

As for the leased line option: there's normally no installation charge if you take a 2-3 year contract, and you don't need a server room - but the charges will quickly mount up after a few years.
Standard User DanielCoffey67
(regular) Tue 10-Sep-19 22:20:58
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4G is certainly worth looking at in rural areas. Most of the major providers have Unlimited data on offer now. EE is at £34/m and Three/SMARTY is from £18.75.

Who you pick depends on the coverage in your area. For example Three are very poor in my rural area and all they could deliver was a few Mbps up and down but EE had much better coverage. I am currently getting 30-40 down and 10-15 up with a modem indoors on EE. An outdoor antenna would probably improve your reception vs an indoors one.

You could always check with a small data PAYG SIM on the major providers. Ask around at work if anyone has a 4G modem you could borrow or see if you could pick up a Huawei B525 off eBay.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 11-Sep-19 00:04:28
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There are many of us on these forums now on Three 4G unlimited, either phone SIM or Three HomeFi which is modem plus data SIM. (I have both),

I haven't seen any significant complaints about performance.

However there have been a fair few from those using Smarty SIMs, that run on the Three network. I have a strong suspicion that Smarty are not renting adequate bandwidth from Three, so I don't recommend it.

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Standard User Cazo
(newbie) Wed 11-Sep-19 08:26:30
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Thank you all for that information. I will look at Cerberus.

I have this morning been told about Boundless Networks
https://www.boundlessnetworks.co.uk/

Fibre to the mast. Is this something any of you have heard of? Is it worth looking into also?

Many thanks

C
Standard User baby_frogmella
(knowledge is power) Wed 11-Sep-19 08:51:31
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In reply to a post by Cazo:
I have this morning been told about Boundless Networks
https://www.boundlessnetworks.co.uk/

Fibre to the mast. Is this something any of you have heard of? Is it worth looking into also?

Many thanks

C

Are you in their coverage area?
https://www.boundlessnetworks.co.uk/home-broadband/c...

If so, worth getting in touch with them. I think they use a Wi-Max type solution where a rooftop antenna is installed which communicates with their local mast - a line of sight is req'd. In my previous home in Kent, i used to be with such an ISP (Telabria) and the Wi-Max setup worked pretty well. However Telabria went bust later on & Orbital/Vfast hoovered up its remains frown
https://www.boundlessnetworks.co.uk/home-broadband/h...

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Standard User candlerb
(experienced) Wed 11-Sep-19 09:35:46
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In reply to a post by Cazo:
I have this morning been told about Boundless Networks
https://www.boundlessnetworks.co.uk/

Fibre to the mast. Is this something any of you have heard of? Is it worth looking into also?


There are a whole load of niche fixed-wireless providers out there. Certainly worth checking if there are any that cover you. Try the thinkbroadband broadband maps.

(Aside: is there a quicker way than just selecting every single provider box? Entering a postcode in the availability checker seems to show only fixed line services, even for a postcode that I know is covered by V.fast)
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