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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 24-Sep-19 13:32:27
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FTTP connection not near phone line


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I have a question about the implications, if any, of the location of the Openreach ONT being located a long distance away from the copper phone line master socket.

Openreach were out today to pull fibre through from the pavement box to our house. They found that the nice new ducting that our copper phone line runs in is totally blocked, depite only being 2 years old!! They tried rodding, it, etc. but without any success. The ducting runs to the back of the house where the master socket is.

So instead they're going to run a new duct to the front of our house, which means it will be nowhere near the existing master socket.

Is this likely to be a problem in the future? For example, if we eventually have to go onto a voice over fibre solution, how would we distribute the phone signal to the extension sockets in the house. Note that where they're going to install the ONT is right next to an extension socket, but it's not the master socket.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 24-Sep-19 14:28:42
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Is this likely to be a problem in the future?

In short, no.

They could run the feed to ONT round to the back of the house from the new duct. Or Put it at the front, and use the extension wiring to liven up the existing voice service ......

To be honest, FVA services look to be on the wane. So when you do go the VOIP route, it'll most likely just be a handset plugged into the back of the CP router .....

Standard User bedrock
(member) Tue 24-Sep-19 14:33:45
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My ONT is nowhere near my copper master socket, I'm not worried about it, or re-using copper extension cable routes either. When the point comes to ditch the copper voice service, I'll just get a VoIP handset and it'll either be Wifi anyway, or the dect basestation will go where the ONT/router are.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 24-Sep-19 14:41:09
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+1

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 24-Sep-19 15:27:35
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Thanks for the replies. I guess if I did need to use our extension sockets for VOIP in the future, I'd need to find some way to disconnect the incoming copper line from the internal house wiring.

It's annoying that OR won't run the fibre round to the back of the house, as that's where my ethernet connected devices are - Sky Q and Smart TV. It's why we got the builders to put the master socket at the back of the house in the first place.

OR said the distance from where they want to put the new duct and where the existing master socket is was too far away frown
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(deleted) Tue 24-Sep-19 16:45:37
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I had an open reach engineer at my home today pulling the fibre cable to the house ready for my install.
My main socket is in our hall, I asked if they could run a fibre cable round the house to the back of my entertainment unit so I can connect my amp sky etc etc and he said that wouldn�t be a problem.
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(staff) Tue 24-Sep-19 16:50:28
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To add, the way the communications providers will do the VoIP stuff in the router is that any normal phone will work, no need for a special VoIP phone, which is what I see some worrying about.

The change is around where you plug your phone in and for those who need help as want hardwired extensions rather than DECT of linking the router to the old wiring for voice service.

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(deleted) Wed 25-Sep-19 07:40:46
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
The change is around where you plug your phone in and for those who need help as want hardwired extensions rather than DECT of linking the router to the old wiring for voice service.
Yes, that�s my concern. If I want to use our internal phone wiring for extensions, how do I isolate it from the external copper phone line?

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 25-Sep-19 09:09:57
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Remove the frontplate from the existing NTE.

Standard User R0NSKI
(knowledge is power) Wed 25-Sep-19 10:20:51
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We did away completely with landline phones when we moved to Virgin broadband, we all have mobiles so absolutely no need for a landline. I think as time goes on mobiles will replace the more traditional phones.

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