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Standard User hanxu
(member) Wed 23-Oct-19 23:53:33
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First world problem: 1Gigabit vs 1Gigabit


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Hi

I live in a flat has Community Fibre, I am using the 1 gigabit connection, and recently Hyperoptics is also enabled 1 gigabit. Has anyone have any experience of both. What are they like?

Community Fibre is OK, but I suspect their backbone is not very strong, reason being, when I download frequent downloads e.g. Mac OS or Windows, it can achieve 1 gigabits, but most other times, it's only half that or even half that, or is it the limitation of the internet... I know no one needs that speed, but I would like to know.

Thanks,

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 24-Oct-19 00:03:06
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Often a limitation of the server.

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Standard User candlerb
(experienced) Thu 24-Oct-19 08:39:32
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when I download frequent downloads e.g. Mac OS or Windows, it can achieve 1 gigabits, but most other times, it's only half that or even half that, or is it the limitation of the internet...


Apple and Microsoft have very good content distribution networks: high-performance servers placed around the world near the end users.

When talking to many other sites, you will be limited by the speed of the remote server you are talking to, or the Internet transit - i.e. the different ISP networks you need to cross to get to the destination.


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Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Thu 24-Oct-19 11:31:13
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Well nobody has said this yet, but it could also be due to loads of small files being downloaded.

A 1GB file is faster to download / save than a Million 1KB files, especially on a mechanical drive, SATA SSD's also suffer with this but not as bad, I have yet to see this happen on a PCIe x4 M.2 SSD Drive.

But yeah, it also depends on the server and if that server is already under load.

Paul

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 24-Oct-19 14:28:12
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Well nobody has said this yet, but it could also be due to loads of small files being downloaded.

A 1GB file is faster to download / save than a Million 1KB files, especially on a mechanical drive, SATA SSD's also suffer with this but not as bad, I have yet to see this happen on a PCIe x4 M.2 SSD Drive.

But yeah, it also depends on the server and if that server is already under load.

Paul


Alot of webservers have gone to nvme. Higher iops on the drive helps with smaller files and high queue depths.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 24-Oct-19 14:30:34
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In reply to a post by hanxu:
Hi

I live in a flat has Community Fibre, I am using the 1 gigabit connection, and recently Hyperoptics is also enabled 1 gigabit. Has anyone have any experience of both. What are they like?

Community Fibre is OK, but I suspect their backbone is not very strong, reason being, when I download frequent downloads e.g. Mac OS or Windows, it can achieve 1 gigabits, but most other times, it's only half that or even half that, or is it the limitation of the internet... I know no one needs that speed, but I would like to know.

Thanks,


CDNs and also servers with 10GigE networks along witth the associated peering agreements, would allow you to saturate your 1Gbits connection but with smaller servers you will saturate their server..
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Thu 24-Oct-19 21:28:38
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In reply to a post by PaulKirby:
Well nobody has said this yet, but it could also be due to loads of small files being downloaded.

A 1GB file is faster to download / save than a Million 1KB files, especially on a mechanical drive, SATA SSD's also suffer with this but not as bad, I have yet to see this happen on a PCIe x4 M.2 SSD Drive.

But yeah, it also depends on the server and if that server is already under load.

Paul


Alot of webservers have gone to nvme. Higher iops on the drive helps with smaller files and high queue depths.

I was more referring to the client machine.

Paul

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 25-Oct-19 08:56:15
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In reply to a post by hanxu:
Hi

I live in a flat has Community Fibre, I am using the 1 gigabit connection, and recently Hyperoptics is also enabled 1 gigabit. Has anyone have any experience of both. What are they like?

Community Fibre is OK, but I suspect their backbone is not very strong, reason being, when I download frequent downloads e.g. Mac OS or Windows, it can achieve 1 gigabits, but most other times, it's only half that or even half that, or is it the limitation of the internet... I know no one needs that speed, but I would like to know.

Thanks,


Is the speed test in your signature up to date? That means the backbone is actually BT and not community fibres. That doesn't mean they can't manipulate the traffic, but peering and connectivity is down to BT, who have a solid backbone.
Standard User hanxu
(member) Fri 25-Oct-19 22:23:17
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Nah, it was very old connection I had with BT, updated now.

Standard User hanxu
(member) Fri 25-Oct-19 22:23:50
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Thanks All, I guess I will keep my community fibre then, until anything changes.

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