FTTP ONT install location

Hi,
Thinking ahead here, but would like the Fibre installed to a different location to where the existing master socket is.
Currently comes in to the house via a duct and then through a small hole next to the front door and along the skirtingboard and over a door and down.
So don�t want the fibre to take the same path.
I�d like it to be installed in the utility room, but to get there from where the fibre would come in, it would either need to be tacked across the front of the house (not ideal), or go in to a loft space and down in to the room.
Now wondering if I do some sort of rope/conduit and put it in place ahead of time would that be acceptable? If so what sort of conduit should be used, size / material etc.
Also does the fibre that comes from the ducting go all the way to the ONT or is there another device installed first? And is that inside or outside the house?
Thanks!

Which broadband operator? What they do will vary depending on which telco

Haven�t got that far yet to choose a provider. Presumed openreach do the install of the ONT device?

(I guess the question was just to check whether it was Cityfibre/Vodafone etc.)

If it's Openreach FTTP, then I found the installer to be accommodating: they took the fibre through the loft to the cupboard under the stairs, where I have my comms equipment. I had already got a duct from attic to the cupboard for CAT5 cables, and they used that. You *might* find they say they are not authorised or insured to go through your loft void though - in which case, I expect it would have to go around the outside as you say.

It's a black cable which externally looks similar to TV coax. It comes in one piece, pre-connectorised at one end for the CBT at the external chamber or pole. At the other end they cut it to length, cut back some of the outer to leave a thin white core, and splice a connector onto it.

If its the Openreach network we are talking about, there are multiple FTTP networks so confirming its Openreach rather than CityFibre or IFNL or Hyperoptic or Gigaclear or B4RN or Truespeed etc etc will make a potential difference to the answers

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

If its the Openreach network we are talking about, there are multiple FTTP networks so confirming its Openreach rather than CityFibre or IFNL or Hyperoptic or Gigaclear or B4RN or Truespeed etc etc will make a potential difference to the answers

Ah, makes sense now thanks for clarifying.

If its Openreach blown fibre (becoming less common), then normally you will have a Customer Splice Point (CSP) installed outside your home. From there Openreach run an 'ezy-bend' cable to the ONT, the ONT can be installed anywhere in the home provided the cabling distance doesn't exceed 30m from the CSP. The ONT doesn't have to be anywhere near your master socket - mine is though.

This is the CSP outside my home

https://postimg.cc/rdBPyLCD
https://postimg.cc/crDZxrK6
https://postimg.cc/2VjrN4SP
https://postimg.cc/bd9p56px
https://postimg.cc/YL3nxLcF
https://postimg.cc/rRcZWCHc
https://postimg.cc/CdgwmyTM

From the CSP to the ONT:

https://postimg.cc/2VjGd50Q
https://postimg.cc/YvhxVsKj

In reply to a post by candlerb:

(I guess the question was just to check whether it was Cityfibre/Vodafone etc.)

If it's Openreach FTTP, then I found the installer to be accommodating: they took the fibre through the loft to the cupboard under the stairs, where I have my comms equipment. I had already got a duct from attic to the cupboard for CAT5 cables, and they used that. You *might* find they say they are not authorised or insured to go through your loft void though - in which case, I expect it would have to go around the outside as you say.

It's a black cable which externally looks similar to TV coax. It comes in one piece, pre-connectorised at one end for the CBT at the external chamber or pole. At the other end they cut it to length, cut back some of the outer to leave a thin white core, and splice a connector onto it.

It�s not an accessible loft space, it�s the front of the house as roof slopes down to first floor, so it�s a case of fishing a cable / conduit through. Was just wondering if they�d be okay to pull the fiber through if I go to the effort of doing that.
I already have a cat6 cable going to my front door Poe camera, but that runs under the roof to the utility/comms room.
I�ll have a think if there�s any other location it could go, I have run cat6 to most parts of the house already.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

If its Openreach blown fibre (becoming less common), then normally you will have a Customer Splice Point (CSP) installed outside your home. From there Openreach run an 'ezy-bend' cable to the ONT, the ONT can be installed anywhere in the home provided the cabling distance doesn't exceed 30m from the CSP. The ONT doesn't have to be anywhere near your master socket - mine is though.

This is the CSP outside my home

https://postimg.cc/rdBPyLCD
https://postimg.cc/crDZxrK6
https://postimg.cc/2VjrN4SP
https://postimg.cc/bd9p56px
https://postimg.cc/YL3nxLcF
https://postimg.cc/rRcZWCHc
https://postimg.cc/CdgwmyTM

From the CSP to the ONT:

https://postimg.cc/2VjGd50Q
https://postimg.cc/YvhxVsKj

Thanks most helpful. I presume the white cable is only rated for inside the home?

Edited by deleted (Tue 07-Jan-20 19:54:42)

I believe its suitable for outdoor use as well. If you look at the second photo, there's an inch or so of white cable exposed to the elements. The engineer told me its weatherproof.