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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 16-Jun-20 19:27:03
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No FTTC available in new build?


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Hi everybody,

I am currently connected using Virgin Media but for over 6 months the latency on my connection has been absolutely terrible, any online gaming has been impossible during the day. Looks like over utilisation in my area, which will obviously not be fixed by Virgin as they keen pushing the "fix" date. My whole estate looks to be connected via Virgin.

I have been looking to switch providers because I don't mind having slower speeds as long as my latency is low and stable. I currently do NOT have a phone line installed so I have been using the address checker to find available speeds. To my surprise, I can only get up to 8 Mbps and no FTTC is available. My house has been built in 2018.

Would having a phone line installed change the speeds estimates? I also cannot find my cabinet on the Telecom Tariffs website, which is weird.

I'm worried that my developer signed a deal with Virgin Media and then connected everybody to a slow cabinet so nobody can leave as all postcodes around me seem to show the same speeds on that cabinet.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do apart from moving?
Standard User candlerb
(experienced) Tue 16-Jun-20 19:38:27
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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Does the address checker know your exact address, i.e. you selected your actual house number? Then it's quite likely correct - you're not on an FTTC cabinet. You might want to post an image of the address checker results, with your address blanked out obviously, to be sure.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 16-Jun-20 19:46:38
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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Yes I can select my actual address. I do have two options though, one of them includes my plot number but the other is just the address. Both show the same speed estimates.

Here is the screenshot of the results.
https://i.imgur.com/4ekXVFQ.png


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 16-Jun-20 19:57:02
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Re: No FTTC available in new build?


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What's your 4G mobile signal like? Quite a few people on these forums have gone to mobile broadband now. Including myself.

Though quite a few are seeing what is probably lockdown-pressure on that as well.

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Connection - Three B311 4G, tbb tests normally 35-45Mpbs down, 65Mbps off-peak, 9-24 up. 1+ 8 Pro max 80Mbps down, 24Mbps up.
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 16-Jun-20 20:24:15
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Did the developer build at least 30 homes? If so, then really strange they chose Openreach copper instead of Openreach FTTP as they could have had the latter for no extra cost - despite any deal they signed with Virgin Media.
Standard User Fastman3
(newbie) Tue 16-Jun-20 21:34:08
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the developer wouold have had to dual source the site for that -depends when the site was called off - site migth have been called off 2 or 3 years before the resident moved in - what exchange is this and how big is the development
Standard User Fastman3
(learned) Tue 16-Jun-20 21:37:42
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copper only sites - probably virgin already as you already advise - assume that cab now wont be enabled as very little if any FTTc outside of specific programme will be done - no commercial crtiera to overbuild existing network provider
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 16-Jun-20 21:50:07
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In reply to a post by Fastman3:
copper only sites - probably virgin already as you already advise - assume that cab now wont be enabled as very little if any FTTc outside of specific programme will be done - no commercial crtiera to overbuild existing network provider
That got me a little confused, as a reply to me wink. My only post in the thread has been about the possible alternative of mobile broadband smile.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 16-Jun-20 22:23:24
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Post on end of thread...

Cab 64 Duston just copper, no VDSL2 likely down to first postcodes being of 2013/14 era i.e. before the Openreach FTTP new build deals were a thing. So likely developer did a deal with Openreach.

If copper network is in place and ducted then might get lucky and see FTTP in the next couple of years. This is happening on a number of new build estates that had just ADSL or FTTC.

If roads have not been adopted by local authority it is still private land and developer may have given way leave for copper but extra work is being blocked.

Cab 57 south of Weedon Road is a similar story

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Standard User Fastman3
(learned) Wed 17-Jun-20 00:08:58
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new pcp - copper deal no deal with developer - looks like from openreach perspective as far as i can see
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