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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 02-Jul-20 09:47:18
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Hello,

Back in May Openreach were all over our small estate like a rash - I spoke to one of the engioneers and he said that they were 'hopefully' going to be putting FTTP to all homes. HOOORRAAYYY
After a couple of weeks passed I started checking on DSL checker if I could get FTTP and I Cannot.
As a test i put in my nextdoor but one neighbour and was surprised to find that they can now get FTTP (Not FTTPOD)
It would appear that Openreach have cbaled the top part of my estate but not my house.
I have been in contact with OR and all they say is that my postcode will be FTTP enabled by the end of september. My argument is that (some) of my postcode is already live and I am just trying to find out if my property is going to get it by end of September.
When walking the dog I always have a look at the BT chamber ion the footpath to see if they have been disturbed and none of them on my part of the street have, unsurprisingly the ones by my next door but one neighbours have.
A week or so ago I noticed a marking on the pavemennt a couple of feet from a current BT Chamber - its in white spray paint, its a rectangle roughtly the size of a bt chamber with a cross through it and a line going from top to bottom (which is 90 degrees orientation to the way the cable will flow down the street) - has any one got any ideas whit this marking is for - does it sound like x marks the spot for a blocked duct or does it sound like a new chamber is being installed?
Standard User witchunt
(experienced) Thu 02-Jul-20 11:35:07
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New box to be built by the sound of it
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 03-Jul-20 16:56:13
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X with inside a rectangle is usually a new jointbox but I’ve also seen JB written inside the box. Jointboxes are what you lot call chambers smile

I imagine the new jointbox will House the FTTP distribution point for your part of the road, so it does sound like encouraging news.


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Standard User gary333
(committed) Fri 03-Jul-20 17:19:51
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That’s good to know. I thought people were referring to an actual joint box like an electrical terminal connector when they said joint box. Are the ugly black cylinder shaped containers in the chambers the DP for copper lines?
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(deleted) Fri 03-Jul-20 20:34:02
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Thanks - that what I was hoping

Here is a picture of the markings

https://postimg.cc/xcn9Nbx1
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(deleted) Fri 03-Jul-20 22:25:06
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My money is on a duct blockage.
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Sat 04-Jul-20 07:35:17
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In reply to a post by partial:
My money is on a duct blockage.

I agree, or maybe a collapsed duct, I have seen a few collapsed ducts near me where one just had a small hole dug to replace / repair the broken duct to a whole duct between two chambers replaced.

I was expecting to see an image of the smaller old narrow chamber and the markings to say its to be dug and enlarged, but there is already one.

Paul

Standard User Woolwich
(committed) Sat 04-Jul-20 08:40:20
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What do the road works websites say? (someone will be along in a minute with the URL cos its different here and you may live there).

Locally I've seen much OR work and a look on the websites say where they're fixing blocked ducts, building a "chamber" or running cable.
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(deleted) Sat 04-Jul-20 08:42:58
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Chekced on roadworks.org and there is nothing listed on our estate for the next 12 months
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 04-Jul-20 10:18:21
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In reply to a post by partial:
My money is on a duct blockage.


For a blocked duct we would usually just draw a small square on the pavement exactly where we wanted them to dig and mark with BT.

Also worth remembering that the first thing Openreach do when prepping an area for FTTP is to sort out all the blocked ducts so the contractors can push the new cables through. So even if it is a blocked duct that still may be encouraging.
Standard User rombic
(newbie) Sat 04-Jul-20 18:32:39
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Hi
We’re waiting for fttp and hoping these markings mean it’s on the way – are we in luck? https://bit.ly/2VJnnBu
https://bit.ly/2ZxOKzI
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(deleted) Sat 04-Jul-20 22:19:17
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Marking is identifying electric cable and possibly another adjacent service.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 04-Jul-20 22:22:47
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In reply to a post by Icaras:
...we would usually


Can often be a mistake to think that what 'we' do is what everyone else does.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 05-Jul-20 10:32:05
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In reply to a post by Icaras:
Jointboxes are what you lot call chambers smile
I use to call them a footway boxes back in my day or simply a box (e.g No 10 box)
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 05-Jul-20 10:41:43
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In reply to a post by partial:
In reply to a post by Icaras:
...we would usually


Can often be a mistake to think that what 'we' do is what everyone else does.


Thanks for that very useful life advice, I’ll take that on board going forward.

What would we do without you?

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In reply to a post by Icaras:
Jointboxes are what you lot call chambers smile
I use to call them a footway boxes back in my day or simply a box (e.g No 10 box)


I’m sure jointbox has been the official term for many years. Hence the naming of them, JB23 etc.

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Standard User MC31
(member) Sun 05-Jul-20 12:54:57
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Or JF4 , JF6 , JF10 ect. And then JRC12 ect.

these comments are my own and in no way represent any company that i may or may not be linked too.
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I'm talking over 40 years
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(deleted) Sun 05-Jul-20 18:28:31
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Or JF4 , JF6 , JF10 ect. And then JRC12 ect.
Can anyone explain the difference between?

JF6
JMF106
JBF106
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 05-Jul-20 19:58:53
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A JF6 is a two lidded footway box.

The others, quite possibly, different varieties of the same.

I dare say poster MC31 may have the complete answer.

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(deleted) Sun 05-Jul-20 22:15:56
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
A JF6 is a two lidded footway box.

The others, quite possibly, different varieties of the same.

I dare say poster MC31 may have the complete answer.
Here what I have always believed but don't know for a fact so would be good to have it confirmed/denied

JF6 = is the frame and cover for a 1310X610mm chamber but not the chamber itself.

JMF106 = is a modular 1310X610mm chamber in 150mm sections (character after 106 determines depth e.g. c=750mm d=900mm) but not the frame and cover.

JBF106 = is a brick built chamber (character after 106 determines depth e.g. c=750mm d=900mm) but not the frame and cover.

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(deleted) Sun 05-Jul-20 22:19:21
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JF - Jointbox Footway
JMF10* - Jointbox modular plastic Footway
JBF - Jointbox Brick Footway
JUF - Jointbox Unreinforced concrete Footway
JRC - Jointbox Reinforced concrete Carriageway
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(deleted) Sun 05-Jul-20 22:30:21
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In reply to a post by partial:
JF - Jointbox Footway
JMF10* - Jointbox modular plastic Footway
JBF - Jointbox Brick Footway
JUF - Jointbox Unreinforced concrete Footway
JRC - Jointbox Reinforced concrete Carriageway
Thanks very much, thats roughly what I thought and good to learn about the last 2 smile
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