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Standard User techguy
(experienced) Sun 26-Jul-20 17:41:56
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PSTN switchoff, will ONT phone ports be enabled?


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While it will depend on the individual providers of course I wondered if there any OR plans to allow the use of the phone ports on the ONT or will be down to having support on the attached router?

I'm keen to keep access to a fixed phone (even if my traffic goes over my fibre) because mobile signal where I live is rather variable due to trees.

Virgin (ADSL) => Namesco => Newnet => O2 => Plusnet => Zen => Newnet => Zen => Freeola => Vivaciti (using O2 Wholesale DSL) => Xilo (C&W Wholesale) => Xilo (O2 Wholesale) => Xilo (TT Wholesale due to O2 Wholesale closure) => Zen LLU => Zen FTTP (76 Mbps down, 18 Mbps up)
Router: Fritzbox 7530
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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 26-Jul-20 17:56:53
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Re: PSTN switchoff, will ONT phone ports be enabled?


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I would suspect not.

Based on the simple fact that both current ONT’s I have seen installed, the Huawei and the Nokia, no longer have FVA ports on them.

Standard User techguy
(experienced) Sun 26-Jul-20 18:02:47
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Hi Zarjaz

I'd hoped you might reply, appreciate it.

The FritzBox I have has phone support and a DECT base in it, so I'd just need to find a service when the time comes.

Virgin (ADSL) => Namesco => Newnet => O2 => Plusnet => Zen => Newnet => Zen => Freeola => Vivaciti (using O2 Wholesale DSL) => Xilo (C&W Wholesale) => Xilo (O2 Wholesale) => Xilo (TT Wholesale due to O2 Wholesale closure) => Zen LLU => Zen FTTP (76 Mbps down, 18 Mbps up)
Router: Fritzbox 7530
Note: I don't lay turf for anyone. astro or otherwise, all views and opinions expressed are my own based on experience.

Edited by techguy (Sun 26-Jul-20 18:04:07)


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Standard User jpm
(regular) Sun 26-Jul-20 18:13:08
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Re: PSTN switchoff, will ONT phone ports be enabled?


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Phone duties will pass to ISP-supplied equipment. Openreach don’t want to be in the business of handling telephone calls.

Edit: Also if you look at the services available there are definite incentives to moving this into the router - just looking at BT's Digital Voice you have HD voice, the ability to make multiple calls at the same time, call rejection at a network level.

Edited by jpm (Sun 26-Jul-20 21:13:51)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 26-Jul-20 18:16:55
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Re: PSTN switchoff, will ONT phone ports be enabled?


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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
I would suspect not.

Based on the simple fact that both current ONT’s I have seen installed, the Huawei and the Nokia, no longer have FVA ports on them.


Also, what is in it for Openreach? They are strongly positioning themselves as delivering Ethernet connectivity; they are doing all they can to stop managing racks of ATAs at exchanges and there would be no benefit to having to support ATAs in ONTs.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 26-Jul-20 18:39:02
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Re: PSTN switchoff, will ONT phone ports be enabled?


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In reply to a post by Nick_W789:
In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
I would suspect not.

Based on the simple fact that both current ONT’s I have seen installed, the Huawei and the Nokia, no longer have FVA ports on them.


Also, what is in it for Openreach? They are strongly positioning themselves as delivering Ethernet connectivity; they are doing all they can to stop managing racks of ATAs at exchanges and there would be no benefit to having to support ATAs in ONTs.

Agreed.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 26-Jul-20 18:40:21
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
both current ONT’s I have seen installed, the Huawei and the Nokia
When you get a work request does it specify what type of ONT should be installed?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 26-Jul-20 19:15:49
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Re: poor mobile signal indoors, are you not able to use wifi calling on compatible network & handset? All of the major networks now support wifi calling, though with Vodafone and O2 its only voice, not voice + texts.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 26-Jul-20 19:32:07
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Not all of the physical networks support WiFi calling on PAYG, and of the virtual networks I believe only Sky and Virgin Mobile support WiFI calling. Its coming very very slowly.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 26-Jul-20 19:39:43
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Yeah sorry, should have said pay monthly contracts. ID Mobile is another MVNO which offers wifi calling.

Edited by deleted (Sun 26-Jul-20 19:46:48)

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