Additional Cab added to the vdsl cab

My vdsl cab serves around 193 premises, and around 100 will be getting fttp. No spline cabling works has been done (on one network) and today when I walked down the village a new smaller cab had been stood and actually is joined on to the existing cab. I think its been stood in the last two weeks

pics one and two

Any ideas to what kit will be added?

If you were a betting man, I’d wager Gfast pod for the copper.

Extreme, extreme long shot would be subtended head end for FTTP but that wouldn’t be typical (apparently from the other recent thread where I drove it waaaay off course!) unless it was somewhere vastly rural where the optical budget (super long total fibre distance) from GEA exchange wasn’t looking good.

That looks like an expansion on the DSLAM for more IDC blocks to go with the larger 64 port line cards.

Edit: looks identical to the high density expansions around my area and those I've seen posted on the kitz forum.

Like this cabinet.

Edited by j0hn83 (Wed 02-Sep-20 16:18:07)

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

If you were a betting man, I’d wager Gfast pod for the copper.

Extreme, extreme long shot would be subtended head end for FTTP but that wouldn’t be typical (apparently from the other recent thread where I drove it waaaay off course!) unless it was somewhere vastly rural where the optical budget (super long total fibre distance) from GEA exchange wasn’t looking good.

G.Fast pods go on the PCP.

The images I've seen of SHE's were also in a pod on the PCP.

deffo not g.fast, probably the worst cab to put it on.

Quickly editing this, as doing an post code check, and its bringing up a waiting list for the cab, so thats what it is. So the fttp progress seems to be still in stall mode.

Edited by Taras (Wed 02-Sep-20 16:34:38)

I'm sure others must have posted pics like this before but these are the first pics I've seen of a pod on the side of a DSLAM, when you do find out for sure what its for please post back here

I think you may be disappointed, it looks like an unventilated side pod so just for additional connections and no electronics.

Edit: @dect - It's an All in One Cab so a PCP and DSLAM

Edited by Realalemadrid (Wed 02-Sep-20 16:35:22)

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I'm sure others must have posted pics like this before but these are the first pics I've seen of a pod on the side of a DSLAM, when you do find out for sure what its for please post back here

Looks as if theres a waiting list for the cab, I did postcode search and it said waiting list. Code look is not reporting that though (but we know code look can be wrong ).

Enough space for mini olt and the card expansion ?

In reply to a post by Realalemadrid:

I think you may be disappointed, it looks like an unventilated side pod so just for additional connections and no electronics.

Edit: @dect - It's an All in One Cab so a PCP and DSLAM

its not an All in one cab ........ pcp separate

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I'm sure others must have posted pics like this before but these are the first pics I've seen of a pod on the side of a DSLAM, when you do find out for sure what its for please post back here

Here's another

https://ibb.co/cwRkDHV

Pic taken 30 seconds ago.
PCP 38 ESDAL exchange.

That particular expansion is for IDC blocks for extra tie pairs for the large 64 port line cards that were fitted to it.

Edit: And another.
PCP 17 ESDAL.

There's about 6 of these in my town alone, all fitted a couple years ago.

Edited by j0hn83 (Wed 02-Sep-20 16:44:41)

OK, thanks for that those extra pics

not sure why those linked have sloped bottom bits and the attached to my vdsl cab isn't The waiting list is very new and other cabs that have been full for longer are getting their upgrades next year.They wouldn't have added a new section within weeks of a cab being full

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Enough space for mini olt and the card expansion ?

The lack of ventilation might (would) be a problem as far as putting powered kit in that extension.

Part of the HD upgrade to deliver more VDSL ports. Was triggered before the cabinet was full.

In reply to a post by Taras:

not sure why those linked have sloped bottom bits and the attached to my vdsl cab isn't The waiting list is very new and other cabs that have been full for longer are getting their upgrades next year.They wouldn't have added a new section within weeks of a cab being full

Some of the extensions around me have sloped bottoms, some don't.
Just the same reason why some cabinets have sloped tops and some don't.
The cabinets and extensions have various shapes available.

They often install 2nd cabinets or expansion pods before capacity is reached so it doesn't always hit a waiting list.

It's a much easier upgrade to simply add larger line cards and a small extension for tie cables than it is to build a 2nd cabinet or a VDSL Sidepod.
The other cabinets that are full and waiting for upgrades might be getting more than a High Density expansion.

Edited by j0hn83 (Wed 02-Sep-20 17:40:11)

In reply to a post by CarlTSpeak:

In reply to a post by Taras:

Enough space for mini olt and the card expansion ?

The lack of ventilation might (would) be a problem as far as putting powered kit in that extension.

Part of the HD upgrade to deliver more VDSL ports. Was triggered before the cabinet was full.

I'm not disagreeing with either of you, i think i just the fttp upgrade to be finished. Its not fun seeing a cbt attached to your nearest telegraph pole which is about 10m away :| .. And yes i know others have waited way longer than men. There is a understandable "hopeful logic" there.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

It's a much easier upgrade to simply add larger line cards and a small extension for tie cables than it is to build a 2nd cabinet or a VDSL Sidepod.
The other cabinets that are full and waiting for upgrades might be getting more than a High Density expansion.

of course and the other two, one is a 512 line upgrade. Not sure what the other what the other cab's line card upgrade is. Just find it odd that fttp upgrade is in process of being installed that vdsl2 line cards are being install quicker. Its logical and illogical at the same time

In reply to a post by Taras:

of course and the other two, one is a 512 line upgrade. Not sure what the other what the other cab's line card upgrade is. Just find it odd that fttp upgrade is in process of being installed that vdsl2 line cards are being install quicker. Its logical and illogical at the same time

Chances are the upgrade hit the plan before the decision on FTTP was made, and has been continued due to the paucity of ISPs offering competitive FTTP - can't force ISPs to sell FTTP instead of FTTC just yet.

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I'm not disagreeing with either of you, i think i just the fttp upgrade to be finished. Its not fun seeing a cbt attached to your nearest telegraph pole which is about 10m away :| .. And yes i know others have waited way longer than men. There is a understandable "hopeful logic" there.

I'm guessing a screenshot of a 1.8 Gb/s down, 220 Mb/s up speed test wouldn't help?

The FTTP was a bduk infrastructure project back in 2016, theres been delay after delay. We finally got the fttp street furniture back in april, but some around 80% have their fibre cables tied up and attached to the poles, ready be fed to the spliters

I was told it would be done last year, but OR said dec 2020 (miss-read it as 2021) and now i've been told its a 3rd party hold with no resolve date. I was even told the V number that was to be used.

Edited by Taras (Wed 02-Sep-20 19:49:11)

In reply to a post by CarlTSpeak:

In reply to a post by Taras:

I'm not disagreeing with either of you, i think i just the fttp upgrade to be finished. Its not fun seeing a cbt attached to your nearest telegraph pole which is about 10m away :| .. And yes i know others have waited way longer than men. There is a understandable "hopeful logic" there.

I'm guessing a screenshot of a 1.8 Gb/s down, 220 Mb/s up speed test wouldn't help?

haha, no actually because SSDs and GbE plus you already get used that speed. I'm more interested in where that link is.

In reply to a post by Taras:

haha, no actually because SSDs and GbE plus you already get used that speed. I'm more interested in where that link is.

The test was done in my home using my broadband services.

In reply to a post by CarlTSpeak:

In reply to a post by Taras:

haha, no actually because SSDs and GbE plus you already get used that speed. I'm more interested in where that link is.

The test was done in my home using my broadband services.

Cool

It's a Huawei 96 cabinet isn't it??

Serving 193 premises as mentioned by the OP in their initial post.

Thought the huawei 96 cab was upto 128ports ?

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Thought the huawei 96 cab was upto 128ports ?

The smaller Huawei cabinets (MA5616) have 4 line cards slots.

They started with 24 port line cards (96 lines).
They then deployed 32 port line cards (128 lines).

They can now be upgraded to 48 port line cards (192 lines) and finally 64 port line cards, meaning it can now do 256 lines if necessary.

Different cabinets will have different capacities. Some might still be running on the older 24 port cards while others have 64 port cards.

No idea what your particular cabinet is running but I'll add that I find codelooks cabinet coverage numbers to be underestimated on many of my local cabinets including my own.

its will be VDSL2 capacity and nothing more