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Standard User Brib
(newbie) Mon 05-Oct-20 15:29:06
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FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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Hi All,

Can anyone tell me if a property 200m from cbt would be eligible for the rural gigabit voucher scheme/ Community Fibre partnership. The houses near to the CBT are connected to FTTP. Openreach checker says ADSL2.

Thanks

Brian

Info :-
Line: Length 875m metres to cabinet
Modem router:HG612 bridged to HomeHub 5 B
IP Profile = Down 49.19 Mbps Up 20 Mbps
Now: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 53138kbps SyncUp: 8120
2017: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 54999SyncUp: 8608
2015: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000kbps SyncUp: 9278
2013: BT Broadband ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 6.79 Mbps Up: 0.36Mbps
2007: Newnet ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 5986 kbps Up: 376 kbps
2005: Freedom2Surf ADSL Down: 5143 kbps Up: 374 kbps
Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 05-Oct-20 15:48:13
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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In reply to a post by Brib:
Can anyone tell me if a property 200m from cbt would be eligible for the rural gigabit voucher scheme/ Community Fibre partnership. The houses near to the CBT are connected to FTTP. Openreach checker says ADSL2.
Hi Brian

The title of your thread and the content of your post don't seem to match.

Are you asking about being connected to a CBT's 200m away or are you asking about the rural gigabit voucher scheme / Community Fibre partnership?
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 05-Oct-20 16:14:27
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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There would be no charge to connect you to a CBT 200m away if it is intended for your property.

A Community Fibre Partnership involves a whole build and won't see you connected to an already in place CBT.
It would be noticed during the CFP survey that you are within reach of a CBT that has free ports.

If you're surrounded by more properties than there are ports free on the CBT then it likely isn't intended for you.


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Standard User Brib
(newbie) Mon 05-Oct-20 16:21:02
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In reply to a post by j0hn83:
There would be no charge to connect you to a CBT 200m away if it is intended for your property.

A Community Fibre Partnership involves a whole build and won't see you connected to an already in place CBT.
It would be noticed during the CFP survey that you are within reach of a CBT that has free ports.

If you're surrounded by more properties than there are ports free on the CBT then it likely isn't intended for you.


Thank you John.

That's answered my question perfectly. No point in asking those two properties. Not eligible.

Info :-
Line: Length 875m metres to cabinet
Modem router:HG612 bridged to HomeHub 5 B
IP Profile = Down 49.19 Mbps Up 20 Mbps
Now: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000bps SyncUp: 8120
2017: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 54999SyncUp: 8608
2015: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000kbps SyncUp: 9278
2013: BT Broadband ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 6.79 Mbps Up: 0.36Mbps
2007: Newnet ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 5986 kbps Up: 376 kbps
2005: Freedom2Surf ADSL Down: 5143 kbps Up: 374 kbps
Standard User Brib
(newbie) Mon 05-Oct-20 16:27:09
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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Hi Dect,

Sorry, I was asking if the property would be covered under CFP.
Checker says FTTP not available, but there's a cbt on the pole the phone line comes from all be it 200m away spanned on 4 poles

Thanks for repyling.

Brian

Info :-
Line: Length 875m metres to cabinet
Modem router:HG612 bridged to HomeHub 5 B
IP Profile = Down 49.19 Mbps Up 20 Mbps
Now: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000bps SyncUp: 8120
2017: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 54999SyncUp: 8608
2015: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000kbps SyncUp: 9278
2013: BT Broadband ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 6.79 Mbps Up: 0.36Mbps
2007: Newnet ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 5986 kbps Up: 376 kbps
2005: Freedom2Surf ADSL Down: 5143 kbps Up: 374 kbps
Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 05-Oct-20 16:34:29
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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In reply to a post by Brib:
Can anyone tell me if a property 200m from cbt would be eligible for the rural gigabit voucher scheme/ Community Fibre partnership. The houses near to the CBT are connected to FTTP. Openreach checker says ADSL2.


If the checker says ADSL2 only, then that CBT is not available for use by your property. A new CBT would have to be installed.

It is possible to get this by ordering FTTP On Demand. The rural gigabit voucher will be usable for that, as long as you meet the voucher terms - typically that your current speed is below a certain threshold, which it almost certainly is if you can only get ADSL.

Unfortunately, the typical ballpark price for FTTP on Demand is £8,000+VAT, although it varies widely, plus you'll pay a bit more than normal FTTP for your first 12 months of service.

You can get a free desktop indicative quote. However it will cost you a non-refundable £250+VAT for a survey to get an accurate quote for your location, after which you have 30 days to accept the quote and pay the balance, or let the order lapse.

You *might* be lucky, and the survey finds that the splitter which serves that CBT is correctly located to connect a new CBT for you, which ought to be a relatively simple and cheap install. Or they might even decide that you can be served from the existing CBT, in which case they'll just update their records so that you can order FTTP. But it's also quite possible that FTTPoD would involve installing a new splitter and running a backhaul all the way back to the nearest Fibre Aggregation Node, which could be very expensive.

There's certainly no harm in requesting the free desktop quote though. Try Cerberus as a starting point.

Edited by candlerb (Mon 05-Oct-20 17:09:33)

Standard User AL66
(member) Mon 05-Oct-20 17:09:31
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If the FTTP was installed as part of a BDUK project then it may well have only been scoped to serve properties with a sub 24Mbps FTTC service. Your signature says you get 53Mbps on FTTC.

You can check this if you look at what is available for each of the addresses.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 05-Oct-20 18:42:59
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Where are you situated as this may help work out what is going on. As others have rightly pointed out that the CBT ports are mapped to houses, so there are cut offs.

Are you connected to the same copper dp as the premises 200m away ?
Standard User Brib
(newbie) Mon 05-Oct-20 19:00:28
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Hi AL66,

That signature is mine. This is down the road, exchange only line gets 5Mbps on adsl.
Thanks for the suggestion.

Info :-
Line: Length 875m metres to cabinet
Modem router:HG612 bridged to HomeHub 5 B
IP Profile = Down 49.19 Mbps Up 20 Mbps
Now: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000bps SyncUp: 8120
2017: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 54999SyncUp: 8608
2015: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000kbps SyncUp: 9278
2013: BT Broadband ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 6.79 Mbps Up: 0.36Mbps
2007: Newnet ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 5986 kbps Up: 376 kbps
2005: Freedom2Surf ADSL Down: 5143 kbps Up: 374 kbps
Standard User Brib
(newbie) Mon 05-Oct-20 19:13:27
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Re: FTTP- House to far from CBT for connectorized cable


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In reply to a post by Taras:
Are you connected to the same copper dp as the premises 200m away ?


That's a good question, that's probably the reason.
The line comes from that pole with the cbt on it, but the drop to the house comes off the pole in the field next to the house, it does have the same box on the pole as the other pole for the copper line. Comes to the house next door too. The phone line uses the power line poles part of the way.

Info :-
Line: Length 875m metres to cabinet
Modem router:HG612 bridged to HomeHub 5 B
IP Profile = Down 49.19 Mbps Up 20 Mbps
Now: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000bps SyncUp: 8120
2017: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 54999SyncUp: 8608
2015: BT infinity 1 FTTC SyncDown: 40000kbps SyncUp: 9278
2013: BT Broadband ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 6.79 Mbps Up: 0.36Mbps
2007: Newnet ADSLMax 8Mbp Down: 5986 kbps Up: 376 kbps
2005: Freedom2Surf ADSL Down: 5143 kbps Up: 374 kbps
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