How do I find out when fiber might go live

I was just heading out for a drive and I noticed some guys laying fiber in the road near me. I asked if it was private and they said "nah, we're doing it all for BT" so it looks like my area will be getting a better connection.

Can anyone point me in a direction that'll allow me to figure out when it might be coming?

Thanks

Put your address in here:
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband

If your address is targeted for FTTP upgrade it will say sothing like "faster internet is coming to your area soon" under FTTP.

It won't give you a timescale (could be up to a year) but it will give you hope!

In reply to a post by zag164:

Put your address in here:
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband

If your address is targeted for FTTP upgrade it will say sothing like "faster internet is coming to your area soon" under FTTP.

It won't give you a timescale (could be up to a year) but it will give you hope!

It does say about gigabit/fttp in my area is coming soon.
I already have a couple of ISP's i'm using so I'm in no rush to add a third but for gigabit I'll do it!

In reply to a post by zag164:

Put your address in here:
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband

If your address is targeted for FTTP upgrade it will say sothing like "faster internet is coming to your area soon" under FTTP.

It won't give you a timescale (could be up to a year) but it will give you hope!

Up to a year doesn't sound too bad. Mines recently started saying the above, too.
How fast could it come in a best case scenario? a few months?

Edited by Xuse (Fri 09-Oct-20 19:30:32)

With the Fibre first cities they are done quite quickly but delays can happen. If its a bduk install then that can take alot longer

Well it's a waiting game I suppose. We're in a village so it might come under a rural thing but who knows. I've signed up to all of the sites to get alerted to a change. As happy as I am with my network its still not ideal and relies heavily on routing rules within my house to make things seem faster than they are.

I know I've still got the fastest internet in a fair distance due to the combined connections but 18 months ago I lived somewhere that I had 400mb and became accustomed to it.

If your area uses the https://one.network/ you can look on there for roadwork permits, it's free to register and then you can select a time period of more than two weeks, look for telephone works mentioning fibre, pon, or fibre cities as an indication. If your area is not showing anything then the council may have a site.

Our area Ramsgate and Broadstairs appeared on the Fibre list around the start of the year, they surveyed our estates ducts in February, but no installation has yet been done, although a very small bit of Broadstairs is live. They have mainly started in Ramsgate first, and are working their way across, see https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/broadband-map#...

So in answer as to how long, it could be very quick depending on how much work they've already done or it could be very long. If your supplied overhead by poles then it may be quicker, or if your on a recently new estate with good ducts it could be quicker, our estate was built in the seventies and there are no ducts from the street to the houses, mine is direct in ground so I think they will do the easier areas first.

As they are already laying fibre it will most likely be sooner rather than later, but the top of my brothers road went live weeks ago but he's still not live, even though they've worked on his telephone pole some time ago.

Mines has openreach all over the place but the only thing it says on one.network is 'advanced planning'.

Openreach started work in our area back in early march and finished for mid september, our go live date for FTTP was on the 22nd of last month.

Just remember that it isn't just the local spline cabling works being the issue, but also the major backbone out of the area. If that isn't up to snuff, you can be waiting a while.

Post deleted by MrSaffron

Edited by j0hn83 (Sun 11-Oct-20 16:46:56)

Openreach may activate, but if none of the wholesalers have their links in place there will be no-one to buy it from

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Openreach may activate, but if none of the wholesalers have their links in place there will be no-one to buy it from

FTTP may still be available for purchase, just not necessarily gigabit packages.
The OP asked about FTTP in general not gigabit.
The chances of zero backhaul options are also pretty damn slim.

We're not talking rural exchanges needing major upgrades but Head-End exchanges with nearly a decade of FTTC behind them.
Most of the big players will have cablelinks already.
BT Wholesale and Sky will both sell lower tier FTTP on their existing cablelinks afaik.
In the case of BT Wholesale they will sell 330Mb on a mixed FTTC/FTTP cablelink.

For the vast majority once OpenReach enable their area an FTTP service will be able.
Might be a wait for higher Ultrafast packages but that can happen at anytime on any exchange.

Don't think I've ever seen anyone complaining they can't order ANY service though I'm sure it will have happened in the past.

Out of interest do you caution anyone switching FTTP provider there may be zero capacity to switch provider?
I'd guess not.
I'm not sure what the difference is with an address being enabled by OpenReach.
It's just as likely (not likely) in both scenarios.
There's no differentiating between a newly activated FTTP property and existing FTTP properties in the same exchange.

I'll update previous post for the pedantic.

My area has the FTTP coming soon and there is a lot of duct unblocking works ongoing in the area on one.network tagged with "CLEAR BLOCKAGES IN CARRIAGEWAY FOR BROADBAND PROVISION AND NETWORK CAPACITY INCREASE THAT IS ESSENTIAL" which I assume is part of the preliminary work.

I could reply to this with just as rude response as you have done.

but i won't ... I will leave that with you john, hopefully j0hn83.1 will be a bit more charming.

p.s

I worded it generally, as most exchanges have fibre back haul, but that doesn't mean its suitable for OR in 2020.Cities like Manchester or London will have most of the infrastructure in place. But somewhere like the New Forest, or Cumbria etc may not.

I was referring to all packages not Gigabit specifically.

A not uncommon scenario is Openreach are all build a new handover cabinet has gone live, but all operators need to get their link to this commissioned. Makes no difference if 40 Meg or 900 Mbps is what public wants to order.

"There's no differentiating between a newly activated FTTP property and existing FTTP properties in the same exchange."

Not always correct, exchanges can and I've physically seen some with two headends.

That's pretty much every exchange with a Nokia ONT. You need to be the very 1st Nokia PON user the be in that bracket.
Some other exchanges have a couple Huawei Head-Ends. Again you would need to be the very 1st on the new Head-End.

The new Nokia Head-Ends have cablelinks installed by BT Wholesale within days of them being commissioned, likely before any PON's are live. No reason to believe the 2nd Huawei Head-Ends aren't the same.

You make a generalized point here and someone comes along with an extreme case arguing against it.

People waiting on FTTP from OpenReach shouldn't be worrying that when it goes live they might need to wait on exchange backhaul upgrades or needing cablelinks installed.
The chances are remote, and that's an understatement.

Are your aware of a single single FTTP only postcode that's enabled by OpenReach that's awaiting a BT Wholesale cablelink?
No? Didn't think so.

In reply to a post by Taras:

I worded it generally, as most exchanges have fibre back haul, but that doesn't mean its suitable for OR in 2020.Cities like Manchester or London will have most of the infrastructure in place. But somewhere like the New Forest, or Cumbria etc may not.

Sorry but that's just incorrect.

FTTP comes from Head-End exchanges already served by FTTC with OLT's in them all.
They all have the infrastructure already.
They use the same kit as FTTC cabinets in most cases, unless it's a brand new Head-End.

Extremely rare edge cases where a new Head-End is built could in theory cause a tiny delay waiting on a BT Wholesale cablelink being added but that's it.

No FTTP comes from an exchange without a Head-End.
They aren't building new Head-End exchanges.

Apologies if you were offended by my previous reply. The majority of the post was edited after a later exchange with Andrew and the bulk of it wasn't in reply to your post.

Edited by j0hn83 (Mon 12-Oct-20 11:33:56)

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

... the post was edited after a later exchange ...

Maybe you could edit that post further and remove the racism.

In reply to a post by Woolwich:

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

... the post was edited after a later exchange ...

Maybe you could edit that post further and remove the racism.

I'm sorry but my DeLorean is in the garage and i sold my Tardis.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

I'm sorry but my DeLorean is in the garage and i sold my Tardis.

I suggest you contact the moderator and ask it be removed.

In reply to a post by Woolwich:

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

I'm sorry but my DeLorean is in the garage and i sold my Tardis.

I suggest you contact the moderator and ask it be removed.

Suggestion noted.

Post was deleted due to breaking rules.

It seems that in the last couple of months they've gone from showing gigabit coming soon in my area to a completely different message telling me what speeds I can get and nothing about the new FTTP.

Very odd as there was definitely "good new" before and now it's just a generic message.

following on in this thread I e-mailed OR via the form in one the replies to ask if my exchange will be upgraded as it only shows up to 330 FTTP available, presumably due to an ECI headend. this is the reply I got

Thanks for your recent enquiry via the Openreach website about getting faster broadband.

I’ve looked into your enquiry and can confirm our systems are already showing that Fibre to the cabinet (FTTC)/ Fibre to the Premises (FTTP)/GFAST is available to order. All you need to do is place an order with your chosen service provider to enjoy the benefits of faster fibre broadband.

Openreach doesn’t provide phone, broadband or TV services directly to anyone so to get these services you’ll need to contact a service provider to find out about the packages they can offer you and the speeds that you’re likely to get. You can find a list of providers here



FTTP https://www.homeandbusiness.openreach.co.uk/fibre-br...

FTTC https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fttc-provi...

GFAST https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/gfast-prov...



If your provider has any issues placing an order ask them to contact us directly.



I’m glad we’ve been able to resolve this case for you, the great news is you’ll now benefit from speedy broadband to your door which means faster downloads, lag-free gaming, and less buffering on music or video.



I will close your case as you can now place an order.

If you need to contact us further please use the following link, as the email account I’m writing to you from doesn’t accept replies. https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband-availabili...

Kind regards



Savita Bhandari
Fibre enquiries

Infrastructure solutions customer service
Openreach

they didnt answer the question just did a standard cut and paste reply and didnt read the e-mail to understand that I am already on 150/30 so getting OR to tell you anything is like trying to knit fog

In reply to a post by chriscdotcodotuk:

It seems that in the last couple of months they've gone from showing gigabit coming soon in my area to a completely different message telling me what speeds I can get and nothing about the new FTTP.

Very odd as there was definitely "good new" before and now it's just a generic message.

I had a similar experience. I noticed contractors working in the street in August pulling in fibre and putting CBTs on the poles. Early October the Broadband checker showed a panel saying that 'FTTP - Faster and more reliable fibre is coming to your area soon.'. By the end of the month the panel had disappeared and the checker just listed what was already available. Late November the checker was updated to show FTTP as being available.

Edited by Rhubarb (Thu 17-Dec-20 09:25:18)

In reply to a post by chriscdotcodotuk:

It seems that in the last couple of months they've gone from showing gigabit coming soon in my area to a completely different message telling me what speeds I can get and nothing about the new FTTP.

Very odd as there was definitely "good new" before and now it's just a generic message.

I noticed that around a month or so ago the openreach fibre check messaging changed also. My area is in the plans (part of market towns and villages) and they were pulling fibre through the ducts on the estate at the end of October.

Whilst before the checker would show two prominent boxes, one saying I can get superfast fibre and the other saying ultrafast coming soon it now just has the one prominent box saying I can get superfast.

However the messaging is still there, in text below this for my location it says "We're starting to build our ultra-fast, ultra-reliable Full Fibre broadband in your area." whilst if I try it for a postcode that isn't in the plans in this place it instead says "At the moment, we don't have any plans to upgrade your area to full fibre, but provide your contact details and we'll keep you up to date if things change - we add new locations into our build plan every three months."

So the change from what I can see wasn't to stop saying that FTTP is planned for a location but instead was just to greatly reduce the prominence of that messaging on the page.

I hadn't actually noticed the differences in the wording:

My street.....

Did you know?
We're upgrading 20 million homes and businesses to Ultrafast Full Fibre broadband
We're starting to build our ultra-fast, ultra-reliable Full Fibre broadband in your area.
Provide your details below, and we'll keep you up to date with how we're getting on and what this could mean for you and your property.

A few roads over....

Did you know?
We're upgrading 20 million homes and businesses to Ultrafast Full Fibre broadband
At the moment, we don't have any plans to upgrade your area to full fibre, but provide your contact details and we'll keep you up to date if things change - we add new locations into our build plan every three months.
Also, why not consider our Community Fibre Partnership programme to see if you could get Full Fibre sooner?

Come on 2021.... at least let me get some super fast internet without having to join multiple lines

john you are incorrect on this

No FTTP comes from an exchange without a Head-End.
They aren't building new Head-End exchanges.

In reply to a post by Fastman3:

john you are incorrect on this

No FTTP comes from an exchange without a Head-End.
They aren't building new Head-End exchanges.

Lol...
Care to expand on that?

Which bit is wrong, and how is it wrong?

Edited by j0hn83 (Tue 29-Dec-20 13:30:59)

That's a very confusing post to me, Fastman3 .

Are you quoting him and saying he is wrong. Or are you telling him something he actually said and you didn't notice?

I read it the second way, until I went back to the original.

Heh!

I took a long time double-checking and editing, so hadn't seen your reply to him.

I know how you feel, the estate opposite has just got FTTP. still balancing 2x 4g here openreach wanted 13k+ for FTTPoD.

they are building new heads in some exchanges

In reply to a post by Fastman3:

they are building new heads in some exchanges

In existing Handover exchanges, yes, they are installing 2nd OLT's/Head-Ends.

That was discussed (by me) in this very thread, just before my post you quoted and incorrectly said I was wrong.

I'd love you to name me a single new Handover exchange being created (not an existing Handover exchange having a 2nd Head-End built).

Hint: there is none.

You're wrong (again).