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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 13:33:28
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G.fast 160/30


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I have placed an order for brand new line with G.fast 160/30 with my new ISP. Engineer is booked in. Will start off 160/30 to see how it goes. Installation date: 30th October. Openreach will bring G.fast socket with Openreach G.fast modem

Will post back soon with new TBB BQM, TBB Speedtest, G.fast stats etc.

My daughter can have her own FTTC with PN now. She will pay the bill.

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Edited by adslmax (Fri 16-Oct-20 13:50:59)

Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 16-Oct-20 13:37:11
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I have placed an order for brand new line with G.fast 160/30 with my new ISP. Engineer is booked in. Will start off 160/30 to see how it goes.

Will post back soon with new TTB BQM, TTB Speedtest, G.fast stats etc.

My daughter can have her own FTTC with PN now. She will pay the bill.
With all the previous talk about you getting G.fast it will be good to finally see how things turn out for you. All the best
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 13:39:51
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With all the previous talk about you getting G.fast it will be good to finally see how things turn out for you. All the best


Thanks, for my own health reason, best to get on with G.fast and switch off my brain. lol

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Standard User Highland76
(committed) Fri 16-Oct-20 13:41:56
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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Hang on, didn’t you order FTTPoD a year or two ago?

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 13:42:56
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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Hang on, didn’t you order FTTPoD a year or two ago?


No I didn't order it. Too expensive!

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Standard User Rastus
(experienced) Fri 16-Oct-20 14:12:16
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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Ladies and gentlemen place your bets please ...

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Standard User brookheather
(member) Fri 16-Oct-20 14:19:42
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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In reply to a post by adslmax:
Will post back soon with new TBB BQM, TBB Speedtest, G.fast stats etc.

Please don't - we really don't need your endless spamming posts of your line stats.

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 14:21:02
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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Please don't - we really don't need your endless spamming posts of your line stats.


Ok fair enough. I won't bother then.

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 14:38:45
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MrSaffron, when the engineer come to install new line for G.fast as I know two next doors of mine get Range A&B 330/50 can I ask openreach engineer to get the line from there to my house so I can get G.fast 330/50 possible? If not, then stick with 160/30 then. Thank you.

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 14:56:13
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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A "new" line will probably use a spare pair in your existing cable which will go back to the same cab as your current connection is on. Only if there are no spare pairs will they run a new line. Do you have reason to believe your physical wire runs a different route than your two neighbours?
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:00:07
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I don't think my master socket haven't got any spare cable left?

Last time engineer only put two wiring on my master socket incoming from exchange is blue and orange. Nothing else. https://ibb.co/Wp78kbL & https://ibb.co/fHBHZbv

Is that brown and green use for 2nd new line?

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Edited by adslmax (Fri 16-Oct-20 15:07:55)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:10:52
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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And the unused pair ...?

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:12:08
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And the unused pair ...?


Is that mean Brown and Green are unused pair (for 2nd new line)?

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:17:56
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Yes, that is a spare pair that the engineer would most likely use for a "new" line.
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:19:02
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Yes, that is a spare pair that the engineer would most likely use for a "new" line.


Ok so the estimate for G.fast will be much the same then? But more likely FTTC line might reduced VDSL sync rate?

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Edited by adslmax (Fri 16-Oct-20 15:19:46)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:20:04
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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One cannot say with any absolute certainty until a signal is on the line

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:23:05
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My isp told me for my line G.fast could be range from 112 to 224 but it can't known until it active on the day of installation but told me if it fail below 112 then the engineer might likely to rejected G.fast to go live and cancel it. Next door got G.fast getting 215 down and 37 up so more likely I can get full 160/30 with no issues.

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Edited by adslmax (Fri 16-Oct-20 15:30:26)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:23:43
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Why not tell us the ISP?

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:25:01
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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Why not tell us the ISP?


BT on Fibre 100 as BT ISP told me can't order Fibre 250. Only Fibre 100.

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Edited by adslmax (Fri 16-Oct-20 15:43:52)

Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:35:11
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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Are BT Fibre 100 come with Openreach Modem or BT Hub? Does BT Hub support G.fast?

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Standard User max360
(regular) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:37:58
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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In reply to a post by adslmax:
In reply to a post by ian72:
Yes, that is a spare pair that the engineer would most likely use for a "new" line.


Ok so the estimate for G.fast will be much the same then? But more likely FTTC line might reduced VDSL sync rate?


I would suggest waiting until the line gets installed and if the speed falls below the advertised speed, cancel the line. G.fast uses different spectrum so you shouldn't have issues on the VDSL service.

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 15:40:48
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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I would suggest waiting until the line gets installed and if the speed falls below the advertised speed, cancel the line.


Is that below Downstream handback threshold only?

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Standard User jpm
(member) Fri 16-Oct-20 16:27:47
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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In reply to a post by brookheather:
In reply to a post by adslmax:
Will post back soon with new TBB BQM, TBB Speedtest, G.fast stats etc.

Please don't - we really don't need your endless spamming posts of your line stats.


Can you even unlock the Huawei G.fast modems to get the stats?

Edit: Ah it's a BT Hub, so the (limited) stats are built into the router.

Edited by jpm (Fri 16-Oct-20 16:29:39)

Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 16:54:15
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I think so, BT Hub or openreach modem as BT ISP told me engineer will come to change master socket to G.fast socket and bring his openreach modem with him.

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Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 16-Oct-20 17:05:16
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Re: G.fast 160/30


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In reply to a post by adslmax:
In reply to a post by max360:
I would suggest waiting until the line gets installed and if the speed falls below the advertised speed, cancel the line.


Is that below Downstream handback threshold only?


Whatever it says in the contract you signed.

If the contract guarantees 100M downstream and makes no claim on upstream, then you will be able to cancel it only if you get less than 100M downstream.
Standard User witchunt
(experienced) Fri 16-Oct-20 17:57:24
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Smart hub 2 . No openreach modem
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Oct-20 17:59:49
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OK thanks at least they got g fast full stats on it

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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 17-Oct-20 01:40:49
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https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4620757-re...

The link above me start to worry me now. Cos my G.fast estimate much similiar to it and line length 267m much similiar to those 303m. Engineer could say to me sorry your line is too far from DP 320m away.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 17-Oct-20 07:35:44
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4620757-re...

The link above me start to worry me now. Cos my G.fast estimate much similiar to it and line length 267m much similiar to those 303m. Engineer could say to me sorry your line is too far from DP 320m away.

Just stop fretting... it will be what it will be. Find something else to focus on.

Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 17-Oct-20 09:08:49
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4620757-re...

The link above me start to worry me now. Cos my G.fast estimate much similar to it and line length 267m much similar to those 303m. Engineer could say to me sorry your line is too far from DP 320m away.
You have nothing to lose only something to gain by ordering G.fast, you've lived without G.fast until now so try not to worry as you don't want to make yourself ill and be in hospital when they come to install it.

You've posted about G.fast for so long now so be excited, I would smile

Edited by dect (Sat 17-Oct-20 09:09:30)

Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 20-Oct-20 04:09:06
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G.fast order has now been cancelled because I don't want rip off charged by BT.com for new line installation of £140 charged! No way I ain't paying that much.

So, G.fast is called off for now.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 20-Oct-20 06:01:45
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(sigh)

Standard User busterboy
(committed) Tue 20-Oct-20 07:49:27
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G.fast order has now been cancelled because I don't want rip off charged by BT.com for new line installation of £140 charged! No way I ain't paying that much.

So, G.fast is called off for now.


What a shock.. shocked….. Not.!! tongue

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Standard User ashlez
(experienced) Tue 20-Oct-20 09:18:31
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
G.fast order has now been cancelled because I don't want rip off charged by BT.com for new line installation of £140 charged! No way I ain't paying that much.

So, G.fast is called off for now.


What a shock.. shocked….. Not.!! tongue


He's just trolling us now. And we keep feeding him!!
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 20-Oct-20 09:37:30
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But you would have known the charge when you placed the order so why did you go ahead with the order in the first place? You could just upgrade your existing line that you share with your daughter to double the speed.
Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 20-Oct-20 10:55:45
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
G.fast order has now been cancelled because I don't want rip off charged by BT.com for new line installation of £140 charged! No way I ain't paying that much.

So, G.fast is called off for now.
I wish I could say something positive about this but like the others who have been gripped by this on-off G.fast story I really hope you never speak of it again.

All the best

Dect
Standard User jpm
(member) Tue 20-Oct-20 12:06:06
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But you would have known the charge when you placed the order so why did you go ahead with the order in the first place? You could just upgrade your existing line that you share with your daughter to double the speed.


Indeed

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Standard User Whitehall11
(newbie) Tue 20-Oct-20 13:18:41
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Prediction - AHAH I HAVE REORDED G.FAST
Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(experienced) Tue 20-Oct-20 15:18:35
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So, G.fast is called off for now.


It was never on, no one believes you didn't know the price before you supposedly ordered its yet another example of your attention seeking here.
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 20-Oct-20 15:21:33
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I don't care whatever u say. I am happy to stayed with FTTC 80/20. UHD 4K are more than enough for two peoples in the household. I rather stick to FTTC 93p a month rather than wasted £40 a month.

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Standard User RomaN
(regular) Tue 20-Oct-20 16:42:16
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I'm confused and admittedly somewhat new to this 'saga' as others have called it but...why did you place the order then get the hump about the £140?
Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(experienced) Tue 20-Oct-20 17:51:58
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I don't care whatever u say.



That would appear to be another lie!

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Standard User Bryer
(experienced) Tue 20-Oct-20 19:33:15
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G.fast order has now been cancelled because I don't want rip off charged by BT.com for new line installation of £140 charged! No way I ain't paying that much.

So, G.fast is called off for now.


Bwahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha..... You should really become a stand up comic!
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 20-Oct-20 19:44:19
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Prediction - AHAH I HAVE REORDED G.FAST

You may have unwittingly predicted the exact spelling too.

Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 20-Oct-20 22:01:26
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Here we go!

G.fast installed this morning! Not bad 143 down and 28 up on the new line. smile

https://ibb.co/SnjvjN6

https://ibb.co/6Pv8B7M

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Administrator MrSaffron
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There is an old morality tale about the boy who cried wolf. I strongly urge you to take heed of the tale and stop trolling people.

There will come the day when you seek genuine help from people but your current and past behaviour means people will ignore you.

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