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Standard User chud51161
(newbie) Thu 05-Nov-20 00:01:24
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FTTP Cost


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Can't get fibre where i live and am stuck with adsl and crawling sppeds.
Anyone ever paid to have FTTP set up in a residential property? If so how much did it cost?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 05-Nov-20 00:09:40
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Thousands, usually tens of thousands. If at all. What does the BT Wholesale checker say for your line? Best to post a screenshot somewhere for us, after erasing the phone number but leaving the exchange and cabinet number in.

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Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 05-Nov-20 08:04:04
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Also try linebroker.co.uk to see how much a leased line will cost (certainly hundreds of pounds a month, but normally without up-front cost if you take a 3-year contract).


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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 05-Nov-20 10:00:31
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If talking FTTPoD which is the normal product then you would have to already be eligible to order FTTC - it sounds like you aren't. The alternative would be a lease line which will likely be even more expensive. Have you contact BT about the USO? Have you looked at 4G as a potential alternative?
Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 05-Nov-20 10:20:32
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In reply to a post by ian72:
If talking FTTPoD which is the normal product then you would have to already be eligible to order FTTC
A property can also order FTTPoD if the serving cabinet is VDSL enabled but the property is too far from the cabinet to be eligible to order FTTC. I am not saying the OP is in this position but your original post is misleading to say you have to be able to get FTTC to be able to order FTTPod.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 05-Nov-20 10:44:18
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Are you sure? I don't recall any BTW availability results showing it without FTTC.

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Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 05-Nov-20 11:10:04
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Are you sure? I don't recall any BTW availability results showing it without FTTC.
Yes I am, I have just double checked a few properties from a cabinet that is FTTC enabled where a few properties are 3 miles away from it, they don't show FTTC (because of the distance to the cabinet) but they do show FTTPoD being available.
Standard User Ixel
(committed) Thu 05-Nov-20 11:20:30
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Depends on your location. They'll need to do a survey, it can cost thousands for FTTPoD. I was one of the lower end quotes, costing me a few thousand or so.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 05-Nov-20 11:52:13
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Pretty sure that didn't used to be the case so if it is now then I believe that is a change. Although it is probable that in those cases the costs would be astronomical.
Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 05-Nov-20 12:06:38
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Although it is probable that in those cases the costs would be astronomical.
You may be right but the quoting of FTTPod hasn't always matched reality.
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 05-Nov-20 12:22:12
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Pretty sure that didn't used to be the case so if it is now then I believe that is a change.


Since at least 2013, likely always.
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 05-Nov-20 14:20:12
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Originally the requirement of a line being connected to an FTTC enabled cabinet was a quick and nasty way of determining which lines had an Aggregation Node "nearby" (though not necessarily all that near).

Considering the original distance bands went as high as 8000m+ (band K) it has always been a fairly crude way of excluding EO lines that might be many many miles from an Agg Node.

There have been posts over the years from EO lines surrounded by FTTC lines and very close to an Agg Node but excluded from ordering FTTPoD.

With the introduction of Desktop quotes they should have allowed EO lines to request a quote and then make a decision based on that whether they can order.
Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 05-Nov-20 14:42:28
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Originally the requirement of a line being connected to an FTTC enabled cabinet was a quick and nasty way of determining which lines had an Aggregation Node "nearby" (though not necessarily all that near).

Considering the original distance bands went as high as 8000m+ (band K) it has always been a fairly crude way of excluding EO lines that might be many many miles from an Agg Node.

There have been posts over the years from EO lines surrounded by FTTC lines and very close to an Agg Node but excluded from ordering FTTPoD.

With the introduction of Desktop quotes they should have allowed EO lines to request a quote and then make a decision based on that whether they can order.
I wouldn't disagree with this, as you say a property served by a FTTC enabled cabinet doesn't mean they are necessarily closer to an aggregation node than an EO property. Everyone should have the option to get a FTTPoD quote even if EO properties had to pay an admin fee for it to discourage time wasters.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 05-Nov-20 16:41:10
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I had one similar to DECTs comments, several (maybe 6, 7, 8) years back, and miles to FTTC cabinet. FTTC was not shown but FTTPoD was there. Eventually with some arm twisting A&A had a VDSL installation completed with, initially just over 2Mbps. FTTPoD could have been done - the nearest node is under 1/2 mile, through a forest, but the line comes from a totally different direction so which would they have taken? No longer relevant as a fibre company has passed teh door and soon a 1Gb service should be available


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Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 05-Nov-20 17:19:52
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This could all be answered waiting for the OP to post their BT Wholesale checker results.

Chances are they're not on an EO line, so they'll be able to get an FTTPoD quote. If so:

1. they can get a free desktop quote; this usually takes about a week

2. they can then pay £250+VAT which triggers a survey, and get a confirmed quote, which could be substantially lower or higher than the desktop quote. Then they have 30 days either to pay the balance to complete the order, or drop out and lose the £250+VAT.

Typical confirmed prices for "easy" FTTPoD installs seem to start at £8,000+VAT these days. Collected quotes reported by forum users here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QFkK1sLBFQjl...

There's no guarantee on installation time either. Likely to be 6-12 months, but up to 18 months is not unknown.
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