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Standard User Michael_Chare
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 13-Feb-21 13:12:24
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Daily Telegraph article about slow FTTP roll out.


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There is quite and interesting article in todays Daily Telegraph about the poor support the government is providing for the roll out of FTTP broadband.

I hope everyone can read the article but authorized access to the website may be needed.

It appear that the government would rather spend up to £170 billion on HS2 rather than £5 billion on FTTP.

Michael Chare
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 13-Feb-21 13:39:08
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I'm trying to remember back when the £5 billion was originally announced, did people think it was enough for 100% full fibre coverage across the entire UK?
Standard User jpm
(member) Sat 13-Feb-21 14:40:12
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The pledge to cover "every home in the land" in five years was never realistic, but I note the Telegraph weren't too fussed about interrogating those claims at the time.


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Standard User Fastman3
(member) Sat 13-Feb-21 14:44:51
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Michael chare

HS2 is way more important that HS2 and will impact the uk for the next hundred years especially now that Phase 2 a is opening sequentially with HS2 Phase 1


daily telegraph got nothing else to write about then

the 5Bn will be spent but you dont get a lot of FTTP for 5BN especially if this complicaed and hard and in direct in ground

same as HS1 as you live near sevenoaks your are a side beneficialry of HS1 more cmmuter trains, more seats -
Standard User Fastman3
(member) Sat 13-Feb-21 14:47:23
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add about another 50 - 60bn and you might be there

bit lke labour pledge of free broadband which was about 80bn short and would have made about 100,000 redundant

got called out by an ISP owner to a London labour MP on LBC radio -- great video on youtube if you can find it
Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Sat 13-Feb-21 15:10:29
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"HS2 is way more important that HS2" ?????

Lockdown has proved that there is no need to arrive in an office half an hour earlier when meetings, etc can be carried out via video conferencing software.

Was Eclipse Home Option 1, VM 2Mb & O2 Standard
Utility Warehouse (up to 16mbps) via Talk Talk, upgraded to fibre 40/10
Standard User GonePostal
(committed) Sat 13-Feb-21 15:20:02
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In reply to a post by broadband66:
"HS2 is way more important that HS2" ?????

Lockdown has proved that there is no need to arrive in an office half an hour earlier when meetings, etc can be carried out via video conferencing software.


The point that most people miss is that the construction of HS2 (a passenger railway) dramatically improves the capacity of the railway to handle freight traffic which is a situation of significant importance as we try to reduce our carbon footprint. When HS2 is open a lot of the passenger trains will be removed from the conventional railway network freeing up space for a more freight. At the moment the conventional railway from London to the Midlands and North West is actually running at over capacity so there is very little opportunity to add further freight trains. HS2 will bring that opportunity.
Standard User heathrow
(regular) Sat 13-Feb-21 15:28:50
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Here: https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/eddie-mair/ca...

The Telegraph is a rag for the Tories - it won't ever challenge stuff they say.


I'm afraid Boris Johnson is untruthful. He;s done this stuff before:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8692103.stm


- claim that every bus stop and lamp post would over 'free wifi' was always a nonsense.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 13-Feb-21 15:31:36
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Lets not have a referendum on HS2 versus full fibre as I predict the later may win by 52 - 48 smile

Interesting point you make about freight traffic as I had never considered that before.
Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Sat 13-Feb-21 15:54:40
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Surely most freight travels at less busy times, especially at night so is of little importance to passenger trains?

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