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Standard User Grimers
(learned) Thu 08-Apr-21 16:57:10
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[re: wolvesmad] [link to this post]
 
I wonder if they mean CBTs or aggregation nodes?

Edited by Grimers (Thu 08-Apr-21 16:57:34)

Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 08-Apr-21 17:38:32
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Re: Rod and rope process


[re: Grimers] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Grimers:
Do you know what the difference is between 1/2 Stage and KCI2 Assure?


1/2 stage is as it sounds. 1 stage means they expect the entire installation to be done in a single visit; 2 stage means two visits, e.g. the internal install done separately from the external install.

KCI are the order progress stages: KCI1 = order accepted, KCI2 = order committed, KCI3 = order complete. If they need to do a survey or further planning before committing to deliver, then this takes place before KCI2. The order could therefore be rejected before KCI2 if it's found to be infeasible or too expensive to deliver.
Standard User Pheasant
(experienced) Thu 08-Apr-21 17:52:06
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Re: Rod and rope process


[re: wolvesmad] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by wolvesmad:
I've just seen them mention about Fiber cabinets on the above link.

I didn't think FTTP needed cabs? Any idea what they mean?

In the OP? The link there is to a ‘generic’ fibre broadband FAQ so any talk of cabinets etc relates to the FTTC product not FTTP. As said FTTP (in Openreach land at least) is cabinet-less (with one relatively tiny exception which I won’t mention to avoid confusion) 👍

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Standard User Grimers
(regular) Thu 08-Apr-21 18:16:36
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Re: Rod and rope process


[re: candlerb] [link to this post]
 
I see, it's just I've seen KCI2 everywhere but not 1 or 3, so I wondered if it was a different type of installation.
Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 08-Apr-21 18:27:22
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[re: Grimers] [link to this post]
 
Yeah, in short it means "order subject to survey"
Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Fri 09-Apr-21 14:03:37
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[re: jchamier] [link to this post]
 
"but I disagree"

Posts change and replies can change as well.

There is no discernible difference when sat close to them.

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Utility Warehouse (up to 16mbps) via Talk Talk, upgraded to fibre 40/10
Standard User Micro
(newbie) Fri 09-Apr-21 14:23:33
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[re: Realalemadrid] [link to this post]
 
It seems that the OP has made his own incorrect conclusion regarding R&R being required before FTTP is showing as available. There must be other reasons for the delay on the FTTP service.


My conclusion is based upon all residences in the village with UG feeds and FTTP available have had R&R. Whereas no residences with UG feeds and no R&R are FTTP available, despite the CBTs being installed several months ago.
Standard User Micro
(newbie) Fri 09-Apr-21 14:29:09
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[re: Zarjaz] [link to this post]
 
Really ?

Openreach will only let you order AFTER they have attempted a rod and rope ??


So it would seem, at least at this location. The properties with UG feeds and R&R are all now FTTP available. Whereas properties with UG feeds, but without R&R, are FTTP not available, despite CBTs being fitted.
As FTTP is not available, it cannot yet be ordered
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 09-Apr-21 15:19:45
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[re: Micro] [link to this post]
 
OK, so it is quite common for FTTP to be rolled out in dribs and drabs, the presence of a CBT does not mean that you are able to order.

When you ARE able to order, that’s when things start to slot into place.

Standard User Grimers
(regular) Fri 09-Apr-21 16:30:00
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[re: Zarjaz] [link to this post]
 
Yup, as I mentioned above, they can be there for months and still not be live...
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