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Standard User mikePR
(newbie) Tue 19-Jul-22 11:05:33
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James from Swish called this morning, and after a series of tests on my current setup, swapped the ONT - and it worked! So, faulty ONT!

Current speed test: 414 download, 426 upload.

So I'm now a happy bunny!
ISP Representative Swish_Fibre
(isp) Tue 19-Jul-22 12:57:31
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Glad we got there in the end Mike!

It was a strange one as our engineer's laptop was negotiating at 1Gbps on the Ethernet port, but as you say, we've swapped the ONT and that has allowed your router's WAN port to correctly negotiate at 1Gbps.

We may not always get it right but we'll do everything we can to get there in the end.
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Standard User mikePR
(newbie) Tue 19-Jul-22 13:51:00
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As per my email to you, I'm very grateful to you and James for your perseverance and support in getting me to a successful conclusion.

Mike


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Standard User mikePR
(newbie) Tue 19-Jul-22 14:26:55
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I've now reverted to my original Archer C7, and that is working well with the new ONT.
Standard User Thaumaturge
(regular) Thu 25-Aug-22 20:54:25
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Well, the day I thought would never, ever come finally did last Monday afternoon. 2 blokes from Swish installed a 400/400 FTTP connection. Installation was very straightforward, took a couple of hours, would have been less if the engineer hadn't left his laptop at the previous job and had to go back for it.

Experience so far is a bit mixed. It mostly works and I do get the advertised speed - a little over, in fact. But I'm distinctly unimpressed with the Plume Pod router they've supplied.

1) It's basically a mesh network hub - they want you to buy several of the things. My network is predominately wired, so it's not a good fit. There is only one downstream port on the router, so I now have to connect everything through my switch. This is fairly old box, it still works fine, but its ports are only 100M. So I now have a 400M internet connection throttled through a 100M switch. Previously I could connect the important devices on my network - my desktop, my wife's desktop, and our main NAS box, directly to the router at 1G, and only had less important stuff on the switch.

2) It plugs directly into a power socket. It's footprint is such that you can't use the neighbouring outlet(s) on a ganged socket - in my case 2 others are not usable, and I don't have many spare. Also all my sockets are low down by the skirting board - this inhibits finding a good spot for best wifi coverage. I had my old router on a shelf fairly high up which seemed to be best. I suppose I could put a 4-way extension up there, but I'm not keen on running a 240v cable up my wall.

3) It doesn't have a browser management interface. You have to manage it using a horrid app on a phone. This is grey on grey, uses very small size fonts, and at my advanced age I have considerable trouble reading it. Frustratingly, Plume do have a web app which I could use on my desktop screen, and enlarge to be easier to read, but when I tried to login to this it told me my account was not authorised to use it. It seems Swish can't or won't make it available to their customers here.

4) All the router stats and info are stored in "the Plume cloud", aka Plume servers somewhere, likely outside the jurisdiction of any GDPR rules etc. Both Plume and and Swish seem less than forthcoming about precisely what is collected, why, where it is stored, for how long, and how it is divvied up between Plume and Swish. There are examples, but I've not found a definitive list. One link* I followed on the Plume website to their Privacy Policy gave me a 404 error. Aside from the major privacy implications, it also means that without an internet connection the router can't be managed, and there aren't any status leds on it.

5) It doesn't play nicely, or indeed at all, with one of my Raspberry Pi machines. DHCP doesn't seem to work, and it doesn't get assigned an IP address. This a bit of a bummer because the RPi runs headless, and without an IP address I can't SSH to it to see what's going on. I've put it back on my old Fritzbox 7530 router and it's perfectly OK. 3 other RPis (2 wired, one wifi) on the network are also all fine, and all four are running much the same Linux based OS, so why this one is being victimised I have no idea. Neither, at present, do Swish support, who are allegedly on the case, though to be fair it is still fairly early days.

I'm on a 6 month free trial right now. If I persist with Swish I will almost certainly junk this load of rubbish and buy a proper router. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations, please? I'm not a power user, I don't game and I don't stream all that much. Wifi performance isn't that important, but I would like something with 4 genuine 1G ports on the back.

* https://support.plume.com/hc/en-us/sections/36000630...
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 25-Aug-22 22:02:29
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In reply to a post by Thaumaturge:
If I persist with Swish I will almost certainly junk this load of rubbish and buy a proper router. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations, please?


The Switch website says you can use your own router:
In reference to www.swishfibre.com/faqs:
Yes you can use your own router and/or Wi-Fi system. If your router has a gigabit Ethernet WAN interface you can connect this directly to our ONT (Optical Network Termination) 10GE port using an Ethernet cable. For further information contact our Customer Care team on 0800 0489415 or [email protected]


If your old Fritzbox has an Ethernet WAN port, you could use that?

22 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM
Standard User Thaumaturge
(regular) Thu 25-Aug-22 23:05:33
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If your old Fritzbox has an Ethernet WAN port, you could use that?


Don't think so:

a) it's new, so if I cancel my FTTC line Zen will likely want it back;
b} it has a built-in VDSL modem and only does 300Mbs, so not really up to the job.
ISP Representative Swish_Fibre
(isp) Fri 26-Aug-22 09:37:09
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5) It doesn't play nicely, or indeed at all, with one of my Raspberry Pi machines. DHCP doesn't seem to work, and it doesn't get assigned an IP address. This a bit of a bummer because the RPi runs headless, and without an IP address I can't SSH to it to see what's going on. I've put it back on my old Fritzbox 7530 router and it's perfectly OK. 3 other RPis (2 wired, one wifi) on the network are also all fine, and all four are running much the same Linux based OS, so why this one is being victimised I have no idea. Neither, at present, do Swish support, who are allegedly on the case, though to be fair it is still fairly early days.


Is the Pi in question set with a static address? Plume's LAN subnet will likely differ to your Fritzbox.

Chris
Swish Fibre Team
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Standard User Thaumaturge
(regular) Fri 26-Aug-22 10:01:20
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I've not knowingly configured it with one. Unless some strange bit of software has been in and locked it down. I could check that, but I would have to take it off your network and put it back on the Fritzbox in order to SSH into it, and your support guys have asked me to leave it on your network for the time being.

It has a static local IP on the Fritz network, but that's configured on the Fritz, not on the Pi. I have always assumed it DHCP'd for it and was always given the same one, but I've no direct proof of that.

Edit: but your suggestion would explain the symptoms. The fritz subnet is 192.168.178, Plume is 192.168.40 [and I can't see any way to change that].

Edited by Thaumaturge (Fri 26-Aug-22 10:30:46)

Standard User Brunel
(experienced) Fri 26-Aug-22 10:23:21
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But I'm distinctly unimpressed with the Plume Pod router they've supplied.

Could this be the same device that Virgin Media use as Wi Fi boosters?

https://getsupport.plume.com/hc/en-gb/articles/44058...

https://getsupport.plume.com/hc/en-gb/categories/440...
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