General Discussion
  >> Fibre Broadband


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.


  Print Thread
Standard User broadbandjockey
(committed) Mon 07-Jun-21 08:04:32
Print Post

Future FTTP. Providing ducting in advance


[link to this post]
 
A friend of mine is conducting a major house rebuild. It going to take a couple of years.

Rural area, no mains water, no mains gas. Electricity and Telephone are overhead provision. An electricity pole that was in his garden had to be moved, which the DNO has done, and at the same time provided an underground feed from the new pole. He provided the trench work for that.

The BT line comes in overhead from a pole that's 2-3 metres outside of his boundary.
To future proof himself for FTTP he'd like to install BT spec ducting now to the outside wall of where his study will be, allowing him to get on and build a new driveway etc. (Even if it's going to be some time later for FTTP, this ducting could be used for a replacement copper service)

I've done some reading up. Grey 52mm ducting, buried at a minimum depth of 350mm ?

Where does he stand regarding the 2-3 metres from the pole to his boundary, just do the whole run and not worry, or only take the ducting to the boundary, cap it, and bury the end until Openreach come in the future to provide the fibre/cable, and let them dig that last 3 metres ?
Standard User pluralist
(regular) Mon 07-Jun-21 08:19:32
Print Post

Re: Future FTTP. Providing ducting in advance


[re: broadbandjockey] [link to this post]
 
(Current) Openreach guidance for developers. I expect you have already read that, but I've posted it just in case you haven't.

Of course, installing a chamber outside his land is probably not possible.

It looks like they get paid, but I doubt if he will.

Connections: OnePlus 8 Pro, 4G max 165Mbps down, 24Mbps up on Three Mobile, and B311 4G router, tbb tests normally 35-45Mpbs down, 65Mbps off-peak, 9-24 up.

Edited by pluralist (Mon 07-Jun-21 08:20:58)

Standard User broadbandjockey
(committed) Mon 07-Jun-21 09:13:53
Print Post

Re: Future FTTP. Providing ducting in advance


[re: pluralist] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by pluralist:
(Current) Openreach guidance for developers. I expect you have already read that, but I've posted it just in case you haven't.

Of course, installing a chamber outside his land is probably not possible.

It looks like they get paid, but I doubt if he will.


Yes, seen that. Actually he might get paid because he runs and owns his own building company, in which case does that open any further possibilities for him ?

Would a chamber be required next to and under the pole ?


Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.

Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 07-Jun-21 13:38:01
Print Post

Re: Future FTTP. Providing ducting in advance


[re: broadbandjockey] [link to this post]
 
They’ll doubtless put in a hockey stick arrangement at the pole. You’ll make life much easier in future if you put a chamber there, from the perspective of pulling in new services.

Also run in two lengths of 10mm blue rope into the 54mm duct. Try to avoid knots. Just buy a full reel, its cheap as chips. You’ll then have a spare draw handy once the initial service is pulled through.

If this was in town with the possibility of other providers rolling out their gear, then I’d recommend running in a second spare duct whilst you go to the bother of trenching and putting in chambers. But as you’re in the sticks, the likelyhood is slim unless you know that another provider (for example like a Gigaclear) is coming then I wouldn’t bother.

With the state of tech these days you never know when you may want another cable path from premises to boundary - even for your own gear, access control, cameras etc etc…
Standard User broadbandjockey
(committed) Mon 07-Jun-21 19:22:57
Print Post

Re: Future FTTP. Providing ducting in advance


[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
Many thanks, good into, and food for thought.

Presumably this range of chambers would be acceptable ?

https://www.nal.ltd.uk/product/stakkabox-quadbox/
Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 07-Jun-21 19:38:53
Print Post

Re: Future FTTP. Providing ducting in advance


[re: broadbandjockey] [link to this post]
 
Ten out of ten!
Standard User FibreBubble
(learned) Mon 07-Jun-21 20:03:15
Print Post

Re: Future FTTP. Providing ducting in advance


[re: broadbandjockey] [link to this post]
 
Don't build any boxes. Dig a BT duct56 to the pole with 90 degree bend either end.

#CountMeIn

Edited by FibreBubble (Mon 07-Jun-21 20:07:07)

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 07-Jun-21 20:24:50
Print Post

Re: Future FTTP. Providing ducting in advance


[re: FibreBubble] [link to this post]
 
+1

Standard User Michael_Chare
(knowledge is power) Mon 07-Jun-21 20:35:24
Print Post

Re: Future FTTP. Providing ducting in advance


[re: broadbandjockey] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by broadbandjockey:
Where does he stand regarding the 2-3 metres from the pole to his boundary, just do the whole run and not worry, or only take the ducting to the boundary, cap it, and bury the end until Openreach come in the future to provide the fibre/cable, and let them dig that last 3 metres ?
Who owns this 2-3 metres of land?

Michael Chare
  Print Thread

Jump to