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Standard User FibreFelix
(learned) Wed 23-Jun-21 09:57:57
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Which providers provide BTWholesale 1000 down 220 up?


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Hi All

Our FTTPoD contract is about to end and we want to upgrade to the BTWholesale 1000/220 product. So far, it only looks like Cerberus Networks offer this, with other providers all capping the upload at 100. Cerberus charge about £100 more per month for effectively 100mbps upload increase. We probably could make do with 100, but I'd rather have the best our line is capable of. Does anyone know if BT business et al will supply the 1000/220 product?

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Felix
Standard User pluralist
(member) Wed 23-Jun-21 10:28:30
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Not on its standard tariffs for small & medium.

On
Corporate it looks like you have to ring to discuss.

Connections: OnePlus 8 Pro, 4G max 165Mbps down, 24Mbps up on Three Mobile, and B311 4G router, tbb tests normally 35-45Mpbs down, 65Mbps off-peak, 9-24 up.
Standard User jpm
(committed) Wed 23-Jun-21 10:54:34
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Out of interest, what are you being quoted for 1000/220? Looking at a couple of our wholesale providers it's only about £40 less each month than a 1Gbps leased line - obviously leased lines are incredibly location dependent and you might not get anywhere near the same price.

It might be worth just taking a look rather than being fixed on going down the FTTP route. You could always keep the FTTP as a backup on a lower speed tier.


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Standard User FibreFelix
(learned) Wed 23-Jun-21 11:00:15
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That's part of the issue, the only one I can find is Cerberus that charge £180 per month with a £495 installation for the 200 upload vs lots of providers that charge around £60 pm for 100 upload. If I could find some others, I'd have a better comparison base.

Leased line is a no go as we're in rural Devon which is why we went with the old FTTPoD pricing (to which we found out later Openreach had underquoted by about £20k but that was on them not us!). We also don't need the leased line guarantees either, especially with a 4G backup. In the thee years since having FTTP, it's not gone down once.

Edited by FibreFelix (Wed 23-Jun-21 11:02:58)

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(deleted) Wed 23-Jun-21 11:10:59
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Might be worth considering the feasibility of taking the 900/100 service from any old provider & throwing it into a balancing/bonding router like AAISP do & getting closer to 200 upload that way. Not a perfect solution but infinitely more affordable than what Cerberus is charging.

Unless money isn't an issue kind of situation of course
Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 23-Jun-21 11:36:04
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Leased line is a no go as we're in rural Devon


Have you checked recently? You might be surprised where some providers leased line networks go. Try leasedline.co.uk, linebroker.co.uk

I'm not aware of other providers selling the 1000/220 FTTP product. If upload is the most important factor there is the 550/165 product, sold as 450/150 by Cerberus at £125 per month, but with the same £495 setup. (However, 150M upload is not that much better than 110M upload)

A year or so ago there was talk of Openreach launching 550/550 and 1000/1000 on FTTP, and that these would be free upgrades to the 550/165 and 1000/220 products, but that has all gone quiet now.
Standard User FibreFelix
(learned) Wed 23-Jun-21 11:51:17
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Yep, still looking at around £400pm, which is a lot lower than it previously was but we just don't need that kind of guarantee in excess of standard FTTP. We're a hotel and nothing we have is mission critical enough to warrant spending that.

Upload isn't that important and if we have to we'll just stick with the 100mb upload, I was just curious to find out if anyone knew of other providers selling the 200mb upload product as it seems odd that the price jump is so high.

Still, I can't complain as 100mbps will still be a tripling of our current upload speed! smile
Standard User jpm
(committed) Wed 23-Jun-21 12:16:15
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Gamma have it listed on their price lists, so if you find a partner or call them direct you can get a price.

For your use case though I'd be tempted to order two 900Mbps services from the likes of TalkTalk and Zen and load balance it, or have one service dedicated for guest usage and one for corporate stuff, failing over where necessary.

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Standard User danielhyde
(member) Wed 23-Jun-21 12:24:00
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In reply to a post by jpm:
Gamma have it listed on their price lists, so if you find a partner or call them direct you can get a price.

For your use case though I'd be tempted to order two 900Mbps services from the likes of TalkTalk and Zen and load balance it, or have one service dedicated for guest usage and one for corporate stuff, failing over where necessary.


Gamma do have it on their price list but it is very expensive.

Thanks
Dan
Standard User wolvesmad
(knowledge is power) Wed 23-Jun-21 13:21:51
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See what TalkTalk Business can offer you.

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SkyUltrafast FTTP 150

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