FTTP Identification

Hi there All,
I wonder if anyone can help, I have just moved into a new house in Knaresborough in North Yorkshire, outside my front door approx 2m away is a telegraph pole, that has a sign on it saying Caution Overhead Fibre.

On the pole is a box at the top and I'm trying to identify who's FTTP fibre it is, that's assuming it is FTTP, BT say i can only get superfast 1/2 but this looks like FTTP.

Openreach don't have it on their and I have tried the usual suspects ALT Nets but wondered if any wise people on here would know.

I have put a link to the photos below.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q3jEtxVJ7GRdo1W5NHw... https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VZ6Z_LYhMEHxdSobbRY...

Hope someone can help.

Kind Regards
K3V1N

looks like just a standard junction box for copper phone lines so not a connector block for fibre, sorry

a fibre connector look like the one on the right

https://cfp.comptonshawford.uk/web/wp-content/upload...

Edited by threelegs (Mon 05-Jul-21 20:49:11)

In reply to a post by threelegs:

looks like just a standard junction box for copper phone lines so not a connector block for fibre, sorry

a fibre connector look like the one on the right

https://cfp.comptonshawford.uk/web/wp-content/upload...

That bird isn't impressed at all.

Weird that the pole has the yellow fibre overheat sticker tho, maybe they just slap them on all the poles.

If you look carefully you can see the fibre optic warning symbol on the front of the hinged lid (bottom middle). The fibre is coiled behind the box. So it is a fibre termination, splitter or splice box of some description

Edit. - I’d say it’s a HellermannTyton AFN (Aerial Fibre Node):
https://www.hellermanntyton.com/products/enclosures/...

Edited by Pheasant (Mon 05-Jul-21 21:20:38)

Is it a Taylor Wimpy development, if so it maybe ofnl (Open Fibre Networks)

In reply to a post by cymru123:

Is it a Taylor Wimpy development, if so it maybe ofnl (Open Fibre Networks)

There’s two dots shown in the TBB map outside a TW development for OFNL

No not Taylor Wimpy just a new build on its own tried the postcode on the open fibre networks and it said no go, thanks for the suggestion tho!

Yes I see it, Just trying to see if its something BT have put in place for the future or it is actually usable really by another provider.

Thanks for the info tho!

K3V1N

It won’t be Openreach gear. It will be an AltNet. Although they may use their poles for access

https://ibb.co/HHWsfXq

The 2 orange dots are where OFNL have coverage. If it's near here it might be their fibre.

The other black dots are where OpenReach FTTP is live.

Virgin have almost blanket coverage of the area

Just because it's fibre doesn't mean it's for residential FTTP though.
It could be for a leased line.
It could be backhaul fibre for a Wireless ISP.
Sometimes it's the fibre that feeds the local FTTC cabinet.

It might belong to the county council: https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2019/10/north-...

Personally i think it more likely to belong to FibreNation (now CityFibre).
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/01/fibren...

At present FibreNation has already nearly completed their roll-out to over 50,000 premises in the city of York and they recently started work to cover 61,000 premises in Dewsbury (here), with Knaresborough and Ripon set to follow in the “coming months“.

Edited by j0hn83 (Mon 05-Jul-21 23:12:37)

As the box has been identified as an Aerial Fibre Node which has provision for 24 connectorised drop cables it would suggest that it is to serve the nearby properties rather than your other options.

The OP could try their postcode on the City Fibre website.

Edited by Realalemadrid (Tue 06-Jul-21 08:56:31)

Makes sense.

https://www.cityfibre.com/news/cityfibre-speeds-digi...

FibreNation / CityFibre were/are known to use HellermannTyton products in their network (along with several other AltNets)

From the photo it looks as if you have the same broadband as I do - carrier pigeon The capacity is good, but the latency is rather high.

Yup each pigeon carries a single packet backwards n forwards they go, latency is [censored] tho lol!

It's good to see implementations of RFC1149 in the wild. If you want better quality-of-service, ask your provider to implement RFC2549.

Apart from this pigeon nonsense. Have you found any information on the CityFibre site?

In reply to a post by Realalemadrid:

As the box has been identified as an Aerial Fibre Node which has provision for 24 connectorised drop cables it would suggest that it is to serve the nearby properties rather than your other options.

I'm fascinated to know how it was identified as taking 24 connectorised drop cables?
It's closed in the photo!!!

The company that makes those enclosures sells dozens of enclosures that look similar.

https://www.hellermanntyton.com/products/enclosures

Would you be persuaded that a pole mounted enclosure in a residential area that could be an Aerial Fibre Node is probably to supply an unspecified number of drop cables to premises even without formal identification.

Cityfibre site just says we are wireing your town we will let you know if and when, so pretty inconclusive really. I registered whilst i was there for info.

Patience grasshopper

In reply to a post by K3V1N_R:

Cityfibre site just says we are wireing your town we will let you know if and when, so pretty inconclusive really. I registered whilst i was there for info.

You can always put your postcode into the official North Yorks site checker and see.

I'm inclined to also say CityFIbre - they fitted this in my local area literally a matter of days ago - and the fibre box looks the exact same on the poles.

I know they were CF as they had their iconic green security fence as they were putting up the box, and clearly stated on the signs it was CityFibre.

They're also digging up on other streets, and states work is being carried out for CityFibre.

Edited by JakeRoof (Tue 13-Jul-21 19:00:50)