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Standard User fidoedidoe
(newbie) Tue 03-Aug-21 15:23:09
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FTTPoD. Did the Previous Tenant Install it?


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Can anyone offer me some advice? I’ve just moved into a business address and to my untrained eye, I suspecting the previous tenant had FTTPoD. I’m making that assumption based on two factors:

1 - I see a white BT box on the wall with a “laser light” warning triangle, fibre cable coming into a “comms room”, each one labelled with circuit number, date and installer. There are also 4 abandoned fibre switches (ADVA FSP150CP)

2 - Contacting BT they were adamant there is only FTTC and no FTTP. I think they were reading from a cue card, as they ignored all attempts to talk about what I could see (circuit numbers and fibre switches).

I’ve requested a desk survey through Cerberus Networks but wondered if there’s a more precise method to establish whether my previous tenant paid for FTTPoD and whether I can reuse that (and avoid the high costs normally associated with FTTPoD).

EDIT - as some replies have indicated it looks like Leased Lines (not FTTPoD), same questions remain though (how do I find out exactly what I have, and who's best to contact for quotes).

Any advice is appreciated as I'm drawing a blank right now. Many thanks!

Edited by fidoedidoe (Tue 03-Aug-21 16:29:13)

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 03-Aug-21 15:40:35
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I suspect that’s not FTTPoD, it was a standard point to point business fibre circuit.

The fibre infrastructure being different., it doesn’t go via a splitter node for instance

Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 03-Aug-21 15:41:14
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Adva’s are typically used to terminate leased line circuits and definitely not FTTP of any flavour.


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Standard User jpm
(committed) Tue 03-Aug-21 15:44:17
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That's a leased line, nothing to do with FTTP.
Standard User Whitehall11
(member) Tue 03-Aug-21 15:53:25
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Re: FTTPoD. Did the Previous Tenant Install it?


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In reply to a post by Pheasant:
Adva’s are typically used to terminate leased line circuits and definitely not FTTP of any flavour.


If he's got some ADVA's kicking about. might be able to get a cheaper leased line deal of sort?
Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 03-Aug-21 16:00:22
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In reply to a post by Whitehall11:
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
Adva’s are typically used to terminate leased line circuits and definitely not FTTP of any flavour.


If he's got some ADVA's kicking about. might be able to get a cheaper leased line deal of sort?

Possibly yes, but he'd have to contract with a provider that would use the same tails. Might make a diff on a 1 year deal where you have to cough up the ECCs, but probably not a 3 year deal if they can absorb them.

Worth finding out though, if the OP has the need and the appetite for a leased line.
Standard User jpm
(committed) Tue 03-Aug-21 16:06:48
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In reply to a post by Whitehall11:
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
Adva’s are typically used to terminate leased line circuits and definitely not FTTP of any flavour.


If he's got some ADVA's kicking about. might be able to get a cheaper leased line deal of sort?


No. They are provided by Openreach with every EAD service and the price for those is regulated and the same for every CP.

I would suggest trying to get Openreach to take all the spare ones away if you get a new leased line installed. They aren't worth anything and otherwise you'd be paying to dispose of them.
Standard User fidoedidoe
(newbie) Tue 03-Aug-21 16:26:33
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okay - many thanks for the replies (and apologies if this turns out not to be the right thread to post this in)

As most have already realised, I'm very new to this and the assumption of FTTPoD now looks very wrong based on your sound feedback.

Leased (fibre) lines is a new one to me, and I'll need to read around the subject. As some have kindly pointed out: it's (dedicated) fibre, rather than shared. To me the key piece is “it’s fibre” and I'm assuming far more capable (in terms of up/down capacities) than the 80/20 FTTC option BT are offering – even if this comes in at a (significantly?) higher monthly costs.

I guess even with leased lines, the same question stands.

1 - Who should I approach to verify what was previously installed (number of leased lines into the building c/w capacities) – Open Reach?
2 – Are the companies for question (1) the same companies I should I be approaching to get quotes to reuse these leased lines – or is there a whole telco market I need to brace myself for? Are there any obvious players I should reach out to?

BTW - I'm not interested in reusing the ADVA equipment (ebay was selling for £15), I only mentioned it to help with understanding what was previously installed.

As always - all advice is welcomed, I've learned more in the last 30 minutes than in the last few weeks. Thank you!!

EDIT - corrected typo's and improved context

Edited by fidoedidoe (Tue 03-Aug-21 16:33:33)

Standard User jpm
(committed) Tue 03-Aug-21 16:33:12
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Significantly is correct. Spitfire publish their prices and in my experience they're very competitive.

https://www.spitfire.co.uk/products/business-interne...
Standard User fidoedidoe
(newbie) Tue 03-Aug-21 16:55:02
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Thanks for the suggestion JPM. I've reached out to Spitfire explaining my situation and inviting them to contact me. .
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