FTTP Roll out ahead of schedule

I have some good news, today my area in St Neots is finally on the first step of implementation to get FTTP soon.
When i say my area I mean only three streets around 20 houses per street, in the direction the cable is being run with the fibre, with confirmations of FTTP coverage from Openreach and John Henry group

Openreach info below

Thank you for your email regarding FTTP in St Neots. Pleased to report that Openreach has big FTTP plans in St Neots – including the address you provide in your email, aiming for Sept 2022

Regards,
Clive

I’ve looked into your enquiry and the great news is that we will have some fantastic connectivity options for your home. I can see the equipment you’re connected to is getting an upgrade. This will give you the option of ordering Fibre to the Premises.

Our engineering work is due to start the beginning of July 2022 and will take several months to complete. I’m sorry we can’t give you a more specific date at this time but once the work is completed you’ll be able to place an order with your chosen service provider. So, at the moment it is difficult to commit for the completion to take place by September 2022 as wok is yet to start.

I had a chat with the contractors working on behalf of openreach, I was suppressed when it wasn't kelly communications as they are always outside in the Cab, it turns out its John Henry group, does anyone know how they are as they seem to be growing a presence locally,

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The contractors said that the information that openreach gave me of an estimated date of September 2022 is way too long and that they estimate considerably shorter.


Does anyone happen to think they could estimate a vague timeframe considering i was told fibre optics cables were planned to go in the ground in July 2022 and they seem to have started doing this in the last two days and i was told by OR available around September 2022. I'm not sure if they are doing underpromise and overdeliver to be safe.

Does anyone here think that they could potentially get it done before May 2022 if we are being very optimistic.

I do understand there is no "same" situation everywhere, but if it helps its all freshly rodded UG feeds for less than 2-3 KM (estimated closer to 2) cables for my estate follow the main road to the exchange or at least said one of the OR techs although any difference in distance between route is negligible.

Let me know what you think.
Kind Regards
RR-THE-IT-GUY

I'm sure someone will correct me, but that cable looks a tad beefy just to be deploying FTTP to homes. Perhaps they need to upgrade their spine capacity / add another aggregation node.

Hard to tell, but it looks similar to what came up our road.

In reply to a post by Whitehall11:

I'm sure someone will correct me, but that cable looks a tad beefy just to be deploying FTTP to homes. Perhaps they need to upgrade their spine capacity / add another aggregation node.

I did think it looked a little "beefy" but I doubt the spine runs in that direction unless they dare go under a farmers field at various points and take it overhead as well, as the ducts stops shortly after the farms and tiny villages which already have FTTP nodes and available services.
I'm not sure if anyone here has openreach maps to confirm but I remember being told that the core runs south to Luton or Stevenage (in that general area) I can't remember so don't hold me to it. I know for sure that Virgin Media in St Neots runs to Papworth.

All other areas (including masts) nearby to me are served via Little paxton North west via another set of ducts.
For the estate south east across a park goes via a different set of ducts which has the Virgin Core nearby at least says Virgin Media network build team.

That's what I know not sure if anyone here has resources to confirm, I'm not sure if Openreach will fit one of the above ground Aggregation node nearby as they have power from the Copper FTTC cab.
I think it's possible for them to go back on themselves 50M for another estate with over 200 houses, as i said that's just a guess as I know my copper Cab does double back on itself.

Do you know if they would do that?

That drum is a roll of sub-duct. Generally used when building a new spine which serves aggregation nodes with fibre which then serve the splitters and ultimately the CBT (where your fibre plugs in to).

The spine building process can take months and months (mine is 7km long and took about 9 months to complete). They will pull sub-duct from chamber to chamber and then blow a spine fibre in and joint it up along the route. All this has to be done before they can light up any properties for FTTP.

You've no idea how far along this process they are and what issues they will encounter along the way which could delay the the target date.

You'd be sensible to expect Sept 2022 as the earliest they will achieve it by, There's a fair chance it will also be later than that as not all properties get "lit" up at the same time.

My area went live in Dec 2020, install took place in Apr 2021 (due to Covid) and they're still in the process of making properties live in my area!

Hope that helps.

In reply to a post by RR_The_IT_Guy:

I'm not sure if Openreach will fit one of the above ground Aggregation node nearby as they have power from the Copper FTTC cab.
I think it's possible for them to go back on themselves 50M for another estate with over 200 houses, as i said that's just a guess as I know my copper Cab does double back on itself.

Do you know if they would do that?

New aggregation nodes can be sited in chambers nowhere near the existing cabinets, or in chambers right by an existing cabinet. Nothing to do with existing cabinets as they're passive and not powered. All to do with the network design and where they are best located to serve the splitter notes. Absolutely no issue to go back 50M on themselves from wherever the aggregation node is sited.

In reply to a post by ashlez:

That drum is a roll of sub-duct. Generally used when building a new spine which serves aggregation nodes with fibre which then serve the splitters and ultimately the CBT (where your fibre plugs in to).

The spine building process can take months and months (mine is 7km long and took about 9 months to complete). They will pull sub-duct from chamber to chamber and then blow a spine fibre in and joint it up along the route. All this has to be done before they can light up any properties for FTTP.

You've no idea how far along this process they are and what issues they will encounter along the way which could delay the the target date.

You'd be sensible to expect Sept 2022 as the earliest they will achieve it by, There's a fair chance it will also be later than that as not all properties get "lit" up at the same time.

My area went live in Dec 2020, install took place in Apr 2021 (due to Covid) and they're still in the process of making properties live in my area!

Hope that helps.

Hi
Thanks for confirming, I did see that some 10/24 ducts were fitted (according to one network before it was made private) a while back so at least they can get it in the ground. I appreciate your response, in your opinion when my contract with Virgin Media ends in May next year 2022, should i leave for a one month plan on FTTC so I can cancel and move over or should i brave Virgin Media for another 18 months on faster speed from may 2022 and be stuck unable to move over to a network i would prefer to be on.
I am estimated 80/20 on VDSL2.
I would do 4G but the signal is only good if i go in the attic or at midnight.

In reply to a post by RR_The_IT_Guy:

In reply to a post by ashlez:

That drum is a roll of sub-duct. Generally used when building a new spine which serves aggregation nodes with fibre which then serve the splitters and ultimately the CBT (where your fibre plugs in to).

The spine building process can take months and months (mine is 7km long and took about 9 months to complete). They will pull sub-duct from chamber to chamber and then blow a spine fibre in and joint it up along the route. All this has to be done before they can light up any properties for FTTP.

You've no idea how far along this process they are and what issues they will encounter along the way which could delay the the target date.

You'd be sensible to expect Sept 2022 as the earliest they will achieve it by, There's a fair chance it will also be later than that as not all properties get "lit" up at the same time.

My area went live in Dec 2020, install took place in Apr 2021 (due to Covid) and they're still in the process of making properties live in my area!

Hope that helps.

Hi
Thanks for confirming, I did see that some 10/24 ducts were fitted (according to one network before it was made private) a while back so at least they can get it in the ground. I appreciate your response, in your opinion when my contract with Virgin Media ends in May next year 2022, should i leave for a one month plan on FTTC so I can cancel and move over or should i brave Virgin Media for another 18 months on faster speed from may 2022 and be stuck unable to move over to a network i would prefer to be on.
I am estimated 80/20 on VDSL2.
I would do 4G but the signal is only good if i go in the attic or at midnight.

If I was you I would personally go on to a 1-month FTTC contract so you can jump to FTTP when it becomes available.

If I was you I would personally go on to a 1-month FTTC contract so you can jump to FTTP when it becomes available.

Awsome, my thoughts exactly, I have also decided to get some dect phones a couple of months before my contract is over and to port to sipgate (although i have no idea how from Virgin Media as everything is complex with them) so I can get the cheapest price per Mbps, and decent FTTP provider e.g. TalkTalk fibre 500.
There may only be two of us using the connection at once but all 30-40 devices are always connected. I think for two users, one who only uses less than 10 gigs a day and the other who uses an average of 70GB (80.32GB in total) with hardly any streaming is quite high, how does everyone else compare, does anyone else use this much or more?

In reference to Virgin Media:

I will list the usage over the last 3 months below:


August 2021: 1902GB downloaded, 584GB uploaded

July 2021: 1757GB downloaded, 463GB uploaded,

June 2021: 2106GB downloaded, 417GB uploaded,


So, on average, over the past 3 months, you've downloaded 1921.6 GB of data and uploaded 488GB


Your highest monthly usage recorded was in February 2021 where 2484.32 GB was downloaded in total.


Apologies, I got carried away with all the numbers there but thought that extra information may be useful.

In reply to a post by RR_The_IT_Guy:

I'm not sure if they are doing underpromise and overdeliver to be safe.

It would be a pleasant surprise if they delivered before the dates they have told you, but based on experience and that of others here, I think it far more likely that they will take all that time to fully build the network in your area and that's if there are no unexpected hold-up or delays.

Good luck.

When you talk to the engineers on the ground, and they say "it'll be done within 3 weeks", what they probably mean is *their* part of the build will be done in 3 weeks.

They may not have any visibility as to all the other work that has to be done before the service can go live, because they don't need to. They'll just move onto the next job.

Just because they've started doesn't mean they'll finish quickly. The rollout here has been painfully slow with huge gaps between very short-lived activity. A street near me still isn't live, and there's been at least a little fibre on it since October!

Edited by Grimers (Tue 14-Sep-21 14:02:23)

If you took a more useful photo of the labels on the side of the cable/duct drum than all photos of the same vans and trailers, then I would be easy to see what was on the drum !.

The front van trailer looks like its go the 'Draw wire' to pull the Fibre Ducting through the underground ducts.

Just because they've started doesn't mean they'll finish quickly. The rollout here has been painfully slow with huge gaps between very short-lived activity. A street near me still isn't live, and there's been at least a little fibre on it since October!

I feel like asking, is it a good sign if another area the other end of town further from the exchange (FTTP headend) than me went live in less than 6 months from when vans started turning up?
I mean I checked for roll out for someone that end and they asked me to check a few months after and it was ONT ready to order so if the speed of delivery is the same there is a good chance it will be quick.

The area i am in has clear ducts as a few people have ordered new copper lines to get 160 down and 40up and cable runs have been painless to the cab, I also know the run from my cab back to exchange is clear because a few kelly communications guys ran some fibre earlier in the year via the same route to FTTP up the villages.
All i can hope is that nothing has blocked up as that's one less issue to occur.

I do also understand that delays can happen so I am prepared to wait.

I will obviously keep you updated as i find out info about how things are going.

In reply to a post by APTMAN:

If you took a more useful photo of the labels on the side of the cable/duct drum than all photos of the same vans and trailers, then I would be easy to see what was on the drum !.

The front van trailer looks like its go the 'Draw wire' to pull the Fibre Ducting through the underground ducts.

I do believe that it was a Draw wire,
I will say I was in a hurry that day so I really wasn't expecting a cable drum to appear as i was about to leave to go somewhere so I tried to be quick about it, i did think i took some pics of the drum but it turns out i didn't.

Chill, it will get done when it gets done.

I would say a good sign, but not a given. That area may have been easier to rollout (less blocked ducts, for example).

Yep, and never give up. It can sometimes take a while, but finally the other day, our property went live!

In reply to a post by APTMAN:

If you took a more useful photo of the labels on the side of the cable/duct drum than all photos of the same vans and trailers, then I would be easy to see what was on the drum !.

The front van trailer looks like its go the 'Draw wire' to pull the Fibre Ducting through the underground ducts.

Bit hard to tell from the photos, but the front trailer looks like a cable pulling winch, looks like a hydraulic orbital motor drive sticking out the right side of the pulling drum.

how long is a piece of string - there are a significant number of challenges and specifics around how premises are released (and will depend on how complicated the spine , aggregatiion node and splitter placement , placement of CBT's and any lead in issued occur and also around when any permissions that need granting are in place -- so i would we watching the BT checker or your adress on Openreach.co.uk (the latter will give you view on what if any progress has been i note your email indicates september 2022 so this might be 1 step you can see out of about 15 - 20 that actually make up deployment of a fibre network - or it could be for something completely different and not related

Hi all,
Just an update they came back as I was leaving to go somewhere again however I managed to get some pics of the stickers.
They confirmed that they are using microduct for fiber blowing later on.

They also said that the ducts are very crammed but nothing picture worthy. One of them was trying the step and push hard on some older copper cables to shift them out the way technique, to get the new one in. Interesting technique, but from what i saw, it worked and they got it in this end, can't speak for if they got it to the other end.

Microduct sticker
Drum
Van and stuff

Looks like that subduct is destined for spine cabling. Once pulled in, if they’re blowing fibre for the FTTP spine, they’ll need to firstly pull in a bundle of microduct into the subduct. I think it’s a seven bore micro-duct bundle that they’ll install.

Blowing fibre is relatively quick and easy - as long as the micro-ducts are in decent nick and aren’t blocked - which if it’s new they will be fresh and good to go.

Edited by Pheasant (Fri 17-Sep-21 14:49:16)

In reply to a post by candlerb:

They may not have any visibility as to all the other work that has to be done before the service can go live, because they don't need to. They'll just move onto the next job.

Very true and often is the case. Their job is x,y or z and that is all they see.

If you don't have overhead cabling then its typically harder to see the cbt and spliters being installed so you may see a large gab between the spine cabling works and going live..

Also the dates that OR give you, is for the whole project and not your postcode/street. So you may be able to order earlier or later than this date.

In reply to a post by Taras:

If you don't have overhead cabling then its typically harder to see the cbt and spliters being installed so you may see a large gab between the spine cabling works and going live..

Also the dates that OR give you, is for the whole project and not your postcode/street. So you may be able to order earlier or later than this date.

Thanks for the info, all I can say is I have very vigilant neighbours who are always on the lookout for engineers I will update them on what I have seen on the whatsapp group and ask that they take pictures of any open chambers and the contents. I have been told that some aggregation nodes need to be installed anyway, if i am correct these are above ground.

I will obviously keep checking BT Wholesale but i'm not that concerned right now as i have months in contract still, so towards the start of next year it will be a couple of times a week so I can get an order in if availability appears, as from what i hear the backlogs are long and the local areas with it being made available are migrating quite quickly as VM has been a nightmare. (Admittedly I have not helped and have been getting loads of people to migrate copper to FTTP and move phone lines to VOIP providers)

I'll follow up with OR again in January or February to see if they are still on the estimated timescales, as it gives me a vague idea of how everything is going so i can finalise plans to migrate from Virgin to OR FTTC (1 month contract) and separate sipgate for phone (unless FTTP becomes available by May which i think is a big if).

You are not correct, aggregation nodes are never above ground but in pavement chambers so you don't see them except when the chambers are open.

In reply to a post by Realalemadrid:

You are not correct, aggregation nodes are never above ground but in pavement chambers so you don't see them except when the chambers are open.

Thanks for correcting me, do you happen to know what the full fibre overground cabs are for or called.
I'm thinking of ones that look something like this
I have seen a few of these in one of the full fibre only estates.

Edited by RR_The_IT_Guy (Sun 19-Sep-21 13:36:37)

Openreach Full Fibre (FTTP) does not usually have any cabinets, except in a rarely used special case of a Subtended head end where the OLT is mounted on an existing cabinet.

Your picture is one type of FTTC cabinet, there are various other types. Some ALT-nets do have cabinets for FTTP, such as GigaClear but they use a different FTTP system..

Edited by Realalemadrid (Sun 19-Sep-21 13:55:44)

Those are FTTC cabs.

Openreach doesn't use any cabs for FTTP, except for in a few ultra-rural remote areas where the fibre distance from the head-end exchange is too long to reach the property directly. Then they may use "subtended headends" inside a cabinet. But these are extremely rare.

Altnets do often use cabs though.

I felt I had to edit my post to mention the rare use of a subtended head end. I knew it would be picked up by others. I hadn't seen your post by the way

In reply to a post by RR_The_IT_Guy:

I'm thinking of ones that look something like this

I'm hoping that eventually OR decommission these cabinets, when every property served by a cabinet CAN get FTTP, there should be no reason to keep and maintain these powered headaches in the network.

In reply to a post by Realalemadrid:

I felt I had to edit my post to mention the rare use of a subtended head end. I knew it would be picked up by others. I hadn't seen your post by the way

Your post beat me to it by just over one minute

Except as noted above for the AltNets that use cabinets in their FTTP network, some passive and some powered, albeit not anywhere in the same quantity as Openreach FTTC cabinets.

What and remove all the copper? That would take ages to do, surely?

In reply to a post by Grimers:

What and remove all the copper? That would take ages to do, surely?

I mean in my area they are going to have to if they ever want to add more without digging up 3KM of main road and pavements as the ducts are basically full, getting the microduct for fibre in was a squeeze, literally.

In reply to a post by Realalemadrid:

Your picture is one type of FTTC cabinet, there are various other types. Some ALT-nets do have cabinets for FTTP, such as GigaClear but they use a different FTTP system..

Thanks for that info, I didn't know they did FTTC cabs that small as the weird thing is I have seen three appear locally and in every location one appears a while later FTTP has been appearing on thinkbroadband map so that's why I thought it was a trend. I just know that the areas they have appeared in already had FTTC available so it just seemed FTTP related.

In reply to a post by Grimers:

What and remove all the copper? That would take ages to do, surely?

There is some scrap value to the copper(*), although personally I don't think they'll bother removing copper from any ducts which are also carrying fibre cables - too much risk of damage for too little return.

However the cabinets will surely go in the end, if only to stop paying for the mains power connections.

(*) Back-of-envelope calculation:
- one strand of 24 awg has a cross-sectional area of 0.205mm^2
- a one metre cable with 100 pairs of 24 awg has a volume of 41000 mm^3, or 41 cm^3
- given a density of 8.96 g/cm3, this makes 0.367kg of copper per metre
- at a scrape value of £3 per kg, that's about £1.10 per metre of this cable

In reply to a post by Grimers:

What and remove all the copper? That would take ages to do, surely?

Keep the original PCP, just remove the linked VDSL/FTTC cabinet. The former is passive, the second active with mains power, monitoring etc. They are linked by short lengths of copper patching between the two.

Removing the D side (PCP to home) or E side (PCP to exchange) is a completely different topic !

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In reply to a post by Grimers:

What and remove all the copper? That would take ages to do, surely?

I mean in my area they are going to have to if they ever want to add more without digging up 3KM of main road and pavements as the ducts are basically full, getting the microduct for fibre in was a squeeze, literally.

It would be "cart before horse" if Openreach were to remove (in use) copper from their network before its been retired and replaced completely with FTTP. There's a few stepping stones along that journey yet.

Hi All,
Thought I would issue an update this evening, about 5 openreach engineer vans were down my street this evening fitting CBT's.
A promising sign I must say.
No fibre is yet lit, or at least that i know of.

i refer back to my email in September 2021 how long is a piece of string - there are a significant number of challenges and specifics around how premises are released (and will depend on how complicated the spine , aggregatiion node and splitter placement , placement of CBT's (is just one job in a number and they might be in place for a significant period waiting for spine etc and any lead in issued occur and also around when any permissions that need granting are in place -- so i would we watching the BT checker or your adress on Openreach.co.uk (the latter will give you view on what if any progress has been i note your email indicates september 2022 so this might be 1 step you can see out of about 15 - 20 that actually make up deployment of a fibre network

In reply to a post by Fastman3:

i refer back to my email in September 2021 how long is a piece of string - there are a significant number of challenges and specifics around how premises are released (and will depend on how complicated the spine , aggregatiion node and splitter placement , placement of CBT's (is just one job in a number and they might be in place for a significant period waiting for spine etc and any lead in issued occur and also around when any permissions that need granting are in place -- so i would we watching the BT checker or your adress on Openreach.co.uk (the latter will give you view on what if any progress has been i note your email indicates september 2022 so this might be 1 step you can see out of about 15 - 20 that actually make up deployment of a fibre network

Hi,
The micoroduct to the aggregation node is in place, fibre is to be blown (last update from OR), aggregation node is 100M away from the CBT's and splitters are around the same place apparently to cover another estate.

A few OR techs have said that the overall build in my location is doing better than some of the other locations locally as my area is newer and has no blocked ducts and everything is in place for swift delivery. not an exact quote but something like that was said to me various times by official OR supervisors apparently overseeing the projects locally. Not sure I fully believe everything I am told as its sometimes better to add a degree of realism.

I will of course keep checking BT wholesale and Openreach databases although no real hurry till May 2022 anyway, stuck in contract so hoping it gets here before the end but it would need to be ahead of schedule so it's wishful thinking, as they say, a project can only ever be achieved if theory matches practice. However practice always seems to find a way of making unexpected problems.

Edited by RR_The_IT_Guy (Mon 01-Nov-21 23:02:10)

Hi All,
Just received an email from the #WeAreOpenreach <[email protected]> email address stating
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Your postcode is:

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Great news. Your area is in our plans for Ultrafast Full Fibre broadband, with speeds of up to 1Gbps†. (That’s 1,000Mbps!)

The benefits in a nutshell
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3. Connect all your devices at once with more reliable speeds
What is Ultrafast Full Fibre broadband?

Simply put, it’s the UK’s most reliable broadband. Most homes and offices in the UK have ‘Fibre to the Cabinet’ which uses part fibre, part copper to get you connected. But with Ultrafast Full Fibre broadband there’s a fibre optic cable all the way from the exchange directly to your door. Built by Openreach, supplied by our partners.

Sign me up, Scotty?

Are you ready? Find out all there is to know about Ultrafast Full Fibre here. You’re already on our email list, so we’ll drop you a note as soon as it’s available to order.

Thanks,

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* Based on data from Ofcom ‘UK home broadband performance, measurement period November 2020’
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† Communication providers may carry different package speeds with the current maximum average speed of 900Mbps at May 2021
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I guess its a good sign to receive this sort of email.

just thought I would update as developments occur.

The explanation you were given as to where the CBT's and splitters are located sounds very wrong.

I've never known a OpenReach to install CBT's and splitters inbetween 2 fairly large, modern, ducted estates, to serve both.
Particularly with you saying 1 of the estates has around 200 properties.

CBT's are usually much closer to properties. On new build developments this is almost always the closest chamber to you.
Splitters only serve 30 properties each (usually deployed in pairs, so covering 60 homes).
As with CBT's these are usually much closer to homes.

Placing all that equipment right next to the Agg Node between 2 new estates sounds...wrong

I would take what random engineers tell you with a pinch of salt.

If that is how it's deployed then it's a cable pullers nightmare. All those drop cables coming from 1 central location, with copper already in the ducts. No thanks.

Edited by j0hn83 (Mon 08-Nov-21 15:02:09)

Just a copy for my thread, applogies about the duplication,

One of the "Infrastructure Solutions Executive Level Complaints Team" called me at 12:30 PM today to update me.

They emailed me a summary it says

Hello Ryan,

Thanks for taking the time to speak to me before, I really appreciate your time.

I just wanted to drop you a quick email to summarise our call. I would like to just start out by again offering my apologies you had to email Clive again about our Fibre plans.

Good News
I’ve checked with my colleagues your property and Number (a different road in the other end of town checking for someone else) Road is in our plans to be upgraded to full fibre broadband (Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) technology). FTTP will give you ultrafast speeds by providing a direct fibre connection between our exchange and your home. So this means once it’s up and running you’ll be to use multiple devices to work from home, stream TV or surf the web all with no drop in quality.

Over the course of the next few months we’ll be starting the work to survey your area and looking to start building in June 2022. When FTTP is ready to be ordered, we’ll update our website to reflect this. You will then just need to place an order with a Service Provider (SP) that sells FTTP products. A list of which SPs sell FTTP can also be found on our website.

If everything goes as planned and we don’t come across any glitches, FTTP could be available by September 2022.

Need Anything Else?
As agreed, I’ll now close things here, but if you need anything further relating to this or our plans for your area please contact me.

Finally, you’ll receive a survey following the closure of this case, it’s about how I’ve dealt with this for you.



All the best and take care,

Name
Infrastructure Solutions Executive Level Complaints Team
Openreach

In our conversation they also told me that spine and fibre works were being down by john henry group and that final installs for individual properties would consist of a first visit by a Kelly Networks engineer then a openreach engineer for the cable pull.

Let me know if you have any further questions, but it's all promising.

Great News everyone, Its finally here, the database got updated and its available to order, I need to mention that the TBB maps and database need an update as they show no availability. Not sure if this is the best place to mention it.


"Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:-Single Dwelling Unit Residential UG premises served by 2.5 Inch plastic duct 56.

FTTP is available and a new ONT may be ordered."

Kind regards,
RR-THE-IT-GUY

Hi Ryan, I can tell your excited, enjoy it when you get it installed and say goodbye to VM

RR-theIt-Guy

Drop an e-mail to Andrew with the postcode(s) involved and he will be able to add them.

In reply to a post by kitcat:

RR-theIt-Guy

Drop an e-mail to Andrew with the postcode(s) involved and he will be able to add them.

Done

In reply to a post by dect:

Hi Ryan, I can tell your excited, enjoy it when you get it installed and say goodbye to VM

The thing is I want to exhaust my Virgin Contract prior to moving over to avoid double paying so will do so until either, a fault occurs (It's virgin so its highly likely), a Price rise (It's Virgin that's also highly likely) or the end of contact.

All I know is at the moment the install queue is around a month in my area, (I checked on my work wholesale account) I also checked directly with providers and its the same.

For this reason I don't mind running two services at once for a few weeks or so its more when its over 6 months its a bit much. That being said I am considering dual WAN but need to consider whats best.

So, Openreach is available, however so is YouFibre, I went for YouFibre due to speeds and a contact that has the service.

The price is also good too.
More on that on my post