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Standard User Xuse
(regular) Fri 03-Dec-21 17:23:00
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Are Openreach supposed to leave the old copper wire?


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When I ordered FTTP they asked if I needed a phone line, I said no get rid of it all. They told me it would be disconnected. On the BT site I clearly don't have a phone package, so that is fine, but he's left the wire coming from the pole and the wiring still goes around the house. Would have been nice to get rid of it...is it normal for it to remain?

Speaking of which does it matter that my fibre cable from the pole is all wonky and not straight? The neighbour had his done yesterday and it's very clean and straight wire while mines looks... honestly it looks bad.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 03-Dec-21 17:41:01
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They would be expected to leave the copper wire in situ.

Standard User Xuse
(regular) Fri 03-Dec-21 17:43:14
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That's fine then although it's a bit unsightly having two cables coming from the pole now. I'm just moaning I suppose as it's nowhere as neat as I had hoped. (OCD [censored])


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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 03-Dec-21 17:49:33
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I’d be interested to see a photo of the ‘unsightly’ cable.

There was, a while back, a batch of 150m O/H hybrid that would look ‘curly’ if not pulled very tight. But if you’ve had hybrid put up, why leave the copper span ??

Standard User Xuse
(regular) Fri 03-Dec-21 17:51:19
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
I’d be interested to see a photo of the ‘unsightly’ cable.

There was, a while back, a batch of 150m O/H hybrid that would look ‘curly’ if not pulled very tight. But if you’ve had hybrid put up, why leave the copper span ??


That can be arranged, although not now as it's too dark out. Are you alright with me PMing you the pictures tomorrow as I'd rather not have them in public.

But yeah it is quite curly.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 03-Dec-21 18:37:20
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I guess.

Standard User TMCR
(committed) Sat 04-Dec-21 12:48:54
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I had my fibre put in a couple of months ago and the Openreach guy used the old copper line to pull the fibre from the pole, so I no longer have copper. Depends on who you get and how they do it but they will be responsible for years to come if they leave it.

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Standard User Xuse
(regular) Sat 04-Dec-21 15:02:52
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In reply to a post by TMCR:
I had my fibre put in a couple of months ago and the Openreach guy used the old copper line to pull the fibre from the pole, so I no longer have copper. Depends on who you get and how they do it but they will be responsible for years to come if they leave it.


Damn. Guess I got unlucky then. He ran the fibre along the wall next to the copper... it doesn't make much sense to me. The wall looks a mess with all the cables. I don't suppose there's much I can do though.

Still not taken pictures yet not been feeling too well today.
Standard User mikegg
(regular) Sat 04-Dec-21 21:13:18
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In reply to a post by Xuse:
Guess I got unlucky then. He ran the fibre along the wall next to the copper... it doesn't make much sense to me. The wall looks a mess with all the cables. I don't suppose there's much I can do though.

If you contact Openreach and tell them it is a redundant cable they may remove it - although it says its chargeable I found they were quite flexible with an O/H cable which was no longer needed.
www.openreach.com/building-developers-and-projects/altering-our-network/altering-our-network-enquiry

Edited by mikegg (Sat 04-Dec-21 21:14:23)

Standard User Xuse
(regular) Sun 05-Dec-21 09:21:11
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Do you know how much they charge? I don't mind paying to get rid of it if I have to. Depending on the price of course.
Standard User Ripley
(experienced) Sun 05-Dec-21 11:35:41
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Snip it off and tear it off the wall. Problem solved.

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Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 05-Dec-21 11:38:30
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In reply to a post by Ripley:
Snip it off and tear it off the wall. Problem solved.


I believe the OP is more concerned about it dangling across to the pole, and unless you have a good head for heights that one's not so easy to solve smile
Standard User Ripley
(experienced) Sun 05-Dec-21 11:40:17
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He said ''The wall looks a mess with all the cables. ''

Which is an easy fix in most situations

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 05-Dec-21 12:12:42
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In reply to a post by Ripley:
Snip it off and tear it off the wall. Problem solved.


its also OR's property...........so problem not solved
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 05-Dec-21 12:35:23
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its also OR's property...........so problem not solved
What do you honest think they would do about it?

Agreed no one should be climbing poles to disconnect drop wires but if it was on my wall it wouldn't be there for long.
Standard User kommando
(member) Sun 05-Dec-21 12:48:58
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My currently unused line is directly laid underground (if you can call 3 to 4" underground) it comes up into a grey box on the outside wall and then up to the guttering before then loosely running around the guttering on 3 sides of the house before entering the porch. When the fibre is installed and live I will be removing all this wire back to grey box, it was on its last legs when I dropped the landline 4 years ago, it was for ISDN and had 6 pairs and was down to its last good pair.
Standard User mikegg
(regular) Sun 05-Dec-21 19:45:01
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Do you know how much they charge?


I might have been lucky but no charge ...
Standard User Ripley
(experienced) Sun 05-Dec-21 23:22:22
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Lol what are they going to do, sue you for damages for removing a disused cable from your own property.

In reply to a post by Taras:
In reply to a post by Ripley:
Snip it off and tear it off the wall. Problem solved.


its also OR's property...........so problem not solved


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Standard User Ripley
(experienced) Sun 05-Dec-21 23:34:19
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Standard User simon194
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 06-Dec-21 09:16:04
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Re: Are Openreach supposed to leave the old copper wire?


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The guy that did my FTTP install was going to do the same until I pointed out that my work broadband is over copper. I'm just keeping the copper as backup just in case of an outage after all it's not costing me anything.
Standard User jabuzzard
(experienced) Mon 06-Dec-21 10:13:18
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Wait till the next storm passes through, go up with a ladder and pull it down. Then ring Openreach and say it has come down in the storm smile
Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 06-Dec-21 10:22:08
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Then Openreach will insist on putting it back up!!
Standard User witchunt
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 06-Dec-21 11:09:46
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Just report is as damage on their website and they will either take it down completely or tie it back to the pole.
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