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Standard User think26872
(experienced) Wed 02-Feb-22 11:23:30
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Is FTTP rollout dependant on your PCP/FTTC Cabinet Pairing?


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As I am in a relatively built up area I have several several PCP/FTTC cabinet pairings near me. These are the original style PCPs and within 25m or so a corresponding ECI FTTC cabinet. I could equally have been connected to any of these pairings distance wise.

If there are signs of FTTP appearing at properties around one of these other cabinet pairings that isn't the cabinet pairing I am connected to is there a chance that FTTP could be provided to me but from this alternative "direction"?

Is the FTTP rollout dependent on your old PCP/FTTC cabinet pairing or as it is just fibre cable now it doesn't matter? As long as all the poles are connected up somehow it doesn't matter?

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Standard User candlerb
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 02-Feb-22 13:34:47
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Re: Is FTTP rollout dependant on your PCP/FTTC Cabinet Pairi


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FTTP has nothing to do with cabinets (*).

Your copper connection goes to the cabinet; the copper then carries on from the cabinet to your local exchange, for voice and ADSL.

An FTTP connection goes to a splitter, which is usually underground. The splitter then connects to a fibre aggregation node, and from there the fibre runs to a larger "head-end" exchange, which often is a different exchange to your local one.

The only point these networks come together is the fibre aggregation node: the fibre which serves the cabinet goes to a fibre aggregation node, and the fibre which serves a splitter also goes to a fibre aggregation node.

Even then, it's possible that the splitter which serves your property connects to a different fibre aggregation node than the one which your cabinet connects to, because for instance, your cabinet may be several km in the opposite direction.

(*) There is one tiny exception for "subtended head-ends" in ultra-rural areas, which affects hardly anyone. Google for it if you want to know more.
Standard User ft247
(member) Wed 02-Feb-22 14:26:08
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Re: Is FTTP rollout dependant on your PCP/FTTC Cabinet Pairi


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I would add that there may be some relevance to PCP areas in that PCP area boundaries may also be exchange area boundaries.

You are probably aware of this but future readers may not be: FTTP is sometimes deployed on an exchange-area level, and there will be a line somewhere between the most northerly PCP in exchange area 1 and a southerly PCP in exchange area 2. FTTP arriving at one is then zero indication that it might arrive soon at the other.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 02-Feb-22 14:52:19
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Re: Is FTTP rollout dependant on your PCP/FTTC Cabinet Pairi


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I think everything you said think26872 already knowns as a regular here, I think the question was more around fibre deployments/builds that are targeted at properties on a neighbouring cabinet and will OP likely be upgraded as well.
Standard User Fastman3
(committed) Wed 02-Feb-22 15:06:58
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Re: Is FTTP rollout dependant on your PCP/FTTC Cabinet Pairi


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FTTP is all about being able to get back to a Aggregation node and then back to a head end. with FTTC its all about he distance between the premises and cab which determines whether its was good bad or ugly in deployment terms . FTTP is all about the aggregation node to the premises (eg you could have say 100 premises all on all buried cable to each premises both close to a exiting enabled PCP and an aggregation node - while it made perfect sense for FTTC (close and all High speed) it makes absolutely no sense to do FTTP as the cost of the ciivils or alternative delivery method such poles or other innovative techniques to sort out the 100 premises all buried cable far outweighs any commercial return on the FTTP for those homes - so you would expect those to be excluded
Standard User think26872
(experienced) Wed 02-Feb-22 20:16:28
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Re: Is FTTP rollout dependant on your PCP/FTTC Cabinet Pairi


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In reply to a post by dect:
I think everything you said think26872 already knowns as a regular here, I think the question was more around fibre deployments/builds that are targeted at properties on a neighbouring cabinet and will OP likely be upgraded as well.
Yes this is what I am trying to find out.

Imagine you draw a triangle and have a PCP/FTTC cabinet pairing at each point of this triangle. I live in the middle of this triangle and are 500m away from all three points. I am connected to the north most PCP/FTTC cabinet pairing.

Will I have to wait for the roll out to being at my specific cabinets and travel south to me or could I potentially be connected to a roll out that has started elsewhere?

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Standard User witchunt
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 02-Feb-22 20:37:47
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Although FTTP isn't usually connected to existing cabinets physically, the deployments by openreach are generally defined by the specific cabinet areas. So if openreach begin to deploy to properties connected to cab 1, but you are connected to cabinet 2, then you will have to hope and wait until they cover cabinet 2 , and even then they may not cover every property in that coverage area.
Standard User think26872
(experienced) Thu 03-Feb-22 14:59:15
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Interesting. I guess they have to start and stop somewhere it will be annoying if one roll out stops near me and I have to wait for "my" roll out.
Standard User flagrag28
(newbie) Thu 03-Feb-22 21:56:33
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Although my situation may be different but the close location of FTTC & G Fast cabinet did help get our FTTP community fibre project enabled quickly.

This was due to there being a spare fibre from the aggregation node to our local estate which was in the same bundle that was pulled in for the local FTTC and G Fast cabinets 3-4 years ago which meant that new fibre didnt need to be pulled through to get FTTP up and running
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