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Standard User Thaumaturge
(learned) Sun 13-Feb-22 11:07:50
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Small FTTP cluster


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A cluster of about 6 postcodes on the edge of my village show on the BT Wholesale checker as WBC FTTP 1000/220, Availability Date = Available, FTTP Install Process = 1 Stage. The BT (retail) broadband availability checker agrees, and shows up to Full Fibre 900 as available to order at addresses in these postcodes. The rest of the village has no OR FTTP availability. The exchange (same one for all the village) is not on OR's latest Full Fibre Build Programme list to get FTTP by end 2026.

What does "FTTP Install Process = 1 Stage" mean exactly? The area is residential, but not new build, properties prob. about 50 years old. Are these lucky few likely to be the result of some FTTPoD order which now has spare slots in a CBT?
Standard User kommando
(member) Sun 13-Feb-22 11:31:19
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Possibly as one of the house or more paid for FTTPoD and the other houses are 'passed' properties or the whole group got a community project up and running and used vouchers to contribute to costs.
Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Sun 13-Feb-22 12:10:24
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What does "FTTP Install Process = 1 Stage" mean exactly?


That it is expected to be a simple installation: the internal and external parts will be done in the same visit, and no pre-installation survey is required.


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Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Sun 13-Feb-22 12:16:48
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Re: Small FTTP cluster


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Usually 1 of 3 reasons.
FTTPoD, a community fibre partnership or BDUK (publicly funded).

BDUK work is usually done on properties with under 30Mb/s available to them. If that end of the village is furthest from the local FTTC cabinet or wasn't connected to 1 at all then it may be that.

1 Stage simply means after ordering FTTP the install will be done in 1 stage, on a single day.
Some installs are 2 Stage where the exterior work up to the CSP is done 1st.
Standard User kitcat
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 13-Feb-22 12:59:42
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As these cover 6 postcodes it is unlikely to be a FTTPoD . More likely to be CFP or BDUK type scheme, but may be an OR funded if they were out of spec from the FTTC cab.

It is likely to make future FTTPoD orders cheaper
Standard User Thaumaturge
(learned) Sun 13-Feb-22 15:23:04
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Distance from cab is a possibility. Don't know off the top of my head, and it's raining hard else I might take an afternoon stroll and have a look. They are on "cabinet 1" - is there any way to find out where this is located?
Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Sun 13-Feb-22 15:48:03
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Codelook gives the postcode of the cabinet.
Standard User burble
(committed) Sun 13-Feb-22 17:13:40
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If you have seen they have FTTP, then you will also have seen the est speeds for FTTC and/or ADSL, this will gave a clue as to if it was BDUK.
Standard User Thaumaturge
(learned) Sun 13-Feb-22 17:48:52
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Mmm, interesting site, didn't know about it. According to the info there, "cabinet 1" is 150 - 250m from the postcode cluster (crow flies distance), so they shouldn't have any trouble getting >=30Mb FTTC. Unless the copper cables go a very pretty way round.

The area covered by cab 1 is long and narrow, along a road. cab 1 is right at one end of it. Some postcodes are 1.5km away (cfd) - but these do not show up as having FTTP available.
Standard User Woolwich
(experienced) Sun 13-Feb-22 19:26:03
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Mmm, interesting site, didn't know about it. According to the info there, "cabinet 1" is 150 - 250m from the postcode cluster (crow flies distance)


No, no, no. Don't put any faith on CodeLook's cabinet locations. They're based on the postcode and I've never seen one located correctly on the map. You need to go and find it for yourself, either using shoe leather or Google Street View.
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