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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Fri 04-Mar-22 07:03:39
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Re: Gigaclear cabling


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I have not tried shining a fibre connected to a cabinet at my finger to see if there is any visible light. If you can do that maybe the OP could just do that as his cabinet is presumably working,

No that won’t work as Zarjaz has noted.

Using test tools there are only two methods that would work

1. Using something like a Fluke FiberLert pen which will detect across a wide range of wavelengths including those used by Gigaclear in their P2P style network as well as PONs used by others.

2. Using a power meter. Something like this.

Otherwise you’d need a small switch with an SFP cage and use a BiDi pluggable (of the correct wavelengths) and check the physical link status from there.
Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Fri 04-Mar-22 09:18:56
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Otherwise you’d need a small switch with an SFP cage and use a BiDi pluggable (of the correct wavelengths) and check the physical link status from there.


I don't think that will detect general power emissions at that wavelength; I suspect it will only show the link as "up" if it can see modulated data that it understands. That is, if it's an ethernet SFP, it will only show link "up" if there is empty ethernet framing present - not GPON or anything else.

So I would rule that out.

However I don't think this really matters here. The OP has a working link, but wants to relocate it. If they break any fibres while relocating the link, they're not going to be able to fix it anyway.

The key things are:
1. The right type of connectors: assuming it's SC then check whether they are blue or green
2. It has to be single-mode (OS2) fibre

If you're putting in a fs.com order, I would recommend a fibre cleaning cassette; advance the tape and then swipe the connector end across it.
https://www.fs.com/uk/products/91449.html

Although really I'd recommend getting Gigaclear to do it all for you. Forget E-mail, and get on the phone.
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Fri 04-Mar-22 09:43:48
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DDM/DOM will report the power levels thorough a compatible switch.

Gigaclear are using an Ethernet link over a BiDi. Not sure the waves though.


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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Fri 04-Mar-22 09:56:03
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Given the Gigaclear architecture is effectively LAN - point to point Ethernet - the evidence available online suggest they, as expected, use standard straight face (UPC) type SC (blue) connectors at both ends.

I’d be really surprised if they uses green APC types given there’s no need in this architecture, unlike PON.
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sun 06-Mar-22 18:03:24
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DDM/DOM will report the power levels thorough a compatible switch.

Gigaclear are using an Ethernet link over a BiDi. Not sure the waves though.

Lazy Sunday late afternoon here, so had a quick Google to see if I could find the optics that Gigaclear use on their base NTE (based on Michael C’s post)…

Looks like the Genexis point-to-point NTE gear is based on standard 1000BASE-BX-U (as per Ethernet 802.3 clauses 58/59 for bidirectional, upstream) optics which transmits @ 1310 nm and receives @ 1490 nm. Standard SC connector type with PC/UPC polish.

The downstream optics at the switch in their POP would of course have those waves reversed to form a matching downstream/upstream link.

On later gear they may have moved to smaller LC connectors at the NTE, but from what I can see it’s still SC at that end. Maybe the OP will be able to confirm the connector type in use.
Standard User Michael_Chare
(knowledge is power) Sun 06-Mar-22 21:01:29
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Re: Gigaclear cabling


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In reply to a post by Pheasant:
DDM/DOM will report the power levels thorough a compatible switch.

Gigaclear are using an Ethernet link over a BiDi. Not sure the waves though.

Lazy Sunday late afternoon here, so had a quick Google to see if I could find the optics that Gigaclear use on their base NTE (based on Michael C’s post)…

Looks like the Genexis point-to-point NTE gear is based on standard 1000BASE-BX-U (as per Ethernet 802.3 clauses 58/59 for bidirectional, upstream) optics which transmits @ 1310 nm and receives @ 1490 nm. Standard SC connector type with PC/UPC polish.

The downstream optics at the switch in their POP would of course have those waves reversed to form a matching downstream/upstream link.

On later gear they may have moved to smaller LC connectors at the NTE, but from what I can see it’s still SC at that end. Maybe the OP will be able to confirm the connector type in use.
Interesting thank you. How do Gigsclear communicate with my Genexis box to change its settings, such as to switch it out of bridge mode?

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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sun 06-Mar-22 21:05:58
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I don't know the specifics, but presume they will have a remote management interface into their Genexis NTE for any such OAM (Operations, Administration, and Maintenance) function as you describe.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 06-Mar-22 21:14:49
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Something like CWMP / TR-069
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TR-069

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Standard User Michael_Chare
(knowledge is power) Sun 06-Mar-22 21:39:49
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Something like CWMP / TR-069
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TR-069
AFAICT When the Genexis box is in bridge mode it does not have a public IP address. So how are Gigaclear communications with it? Maybe a VLAN?

Michael Chare
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 07-Mar-22 05:25:16
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AFAICT When the Genexis box is in bridge mode it does not have a public IP address. So how are Gigaclear communications with it? Maybe a VLAN?
Could be, I think that is how the old VDSL Openreach modems were managed. (mostly for firmware)

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