Surly it will be either zzoomm or OR to each property, so it will be the same amount?

You’d think .. but imagine, you swap from one to another. So Zzoomm have no right to touch OR fibre, and vice versa. So you’ll end up with two fibre drops (well not Zzoomm who seem to be all UG) As Pheasant just noted, those poles are going to shockingly busy.

In years gone by I’ve advocated one company providing the whole fibre network, and then CP’s just connect at one central point to provide/change service. But no …

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The dome-shaped thing is likely a track joint. The 5th and 6th photos do appear to show a CBT - you can see the caps with their retaining clips on the CBT ports - as well as what looks like some third-party fibre hardware.

It's quite possible you're getting both OR FTTP and Zzooom.

Zzoomm will most likely deliver via OR poles, if that's how OR are delivering to properties in that area (because there are no lead-in ducts)

Nah, the ‘dome shaped thing’ is a copper joint. Track nodes look very different.

Zzoomm ALL UG round here, even in locations where Openreach is via poles

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Nah, the ‘dome shaped thing’ is a copper joint. Track nodes look very different.

Like this. (image nicked from a running thread at ISPR fora)

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You’d think .. but imagine, you swap from one to another. So Zzoomm have no right to touch OR fibre, and vice versa. So you’ll end up with two fibre drops (well not Zzoomm who seem to be all UG) As Pheasant just noted, those poles are going to shockingly busy.

In years gone by I’ve advocated one company providing the whole fibre network, and then CP’s just connect at one central point to provide/change service. But no …

Zzoomm seems to be underground with what they have done here so far, but they do use poles according to their website and the bloke that came out to me while I was taking the photos, told me he saw someone from zzoomm having a look.
There is no other company doing fibre here apart from zzoomm and maybe now Openreach. I am still confused, but for a different reason

i did see a zzoomm van when i went around to take the photos, but he was going the other way up the road.

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Nah, the ‘dome shaped thing’ is a copper joint. Track nodes look very different.

Zzoomm ALL UG round here, even in locations where Openreach is via poles

Zzoomm is underground here, from what I have seen, but they do use poles. it says so on their website.

ok, i had another look on their site and it don't anymore, it says

How will you get it into my property?

We run your Full Fibre connection from a Fibre box, which is located on the road outside your property, into your home. When you order Zzoomm we’ll talk to you about where you want us to put your Zzoomm Hub so you get the best possible service.

I have a feeling this is nothing to do with zzoomm at all../

That’s the kiddy.

FTTP rollout; what typically goes up the pole as the distribution point...

This is the fibre termination that many AltNets will use - the HellermannTyton AFN - looks very much like the one shown on the right of your photos, but a bit hard to make out all the detail. All the connectors (typically standard LC/APC) are inside the box.

Openreach on the other hand will install either a 4-port (sparse rural setting), 8-port or 12-port (urban settings) CBT (Corning or CommScope) with the proprietary hardened 'OptiTap' fibre connectors. Each drop is connectorised and screws into the CBT. They start customer connections from the bottom left port and work their way up in a zig-zag layout.

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In years gone by I’ve advocated one company providing the whole fibre network, and then CP’s just connect at one central point to provide/change service.

You mean: an Open fibre network, with a wide Reach?

This is basically what we have today, if you accept that OR light the fibres and wholesale the lit service.

If OR were to provide a dark fibre FTTH service instead, then the fibres would have to be spliced onto a different splitter for each service provider - or the splitters would have to be connectorised - and migrating customers would require field visits to repatch them.

But still it doesn't solve the underlying issue, which is that OR would be required to sell access to this fibre network at a flat regulated price. Altnets would still overbuild, because they'd still want to cherry-pick the cheap-to-build areas in order to undercut OR at wholesale.

It is done though.

Casting our gaze over at continental Europe, the Swisscom FTTH 'wholesale' model is actually....quite good.

Its all point-to-point too, so the ISP can choose to run PON or some ridiculous 25G dedicated symmetric service....😂

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In years gone by I’ve advocated one company providing the whole fibre network, and then CP’s just connect at one central point to provide/change service. But no …

That was only feasible if it was dark fibre, however that was never really on the table which is a shame as it has produced some really innovative products in Switzerland and elsewhere.

Once BT decided to go with PON parallel fibre networks were inevitable.