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Standard User PineappleSorbet
(newbie) Sat 04-Mar-23 16:33:37
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Is this a sign of FTTP or not?


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Hello,

We don't have any altNETs operating in our immediate neighbourhood and Openreach FTTP isn't planned according to the Openreach checker.

However, we've had some works recently on the telegraph pole and some new "equipment" has appeared.

https://ibb.co/vqxfvPZ
https://ibb.co/17spgw7

Does anyone know what this equipment is and any relation to an impending FTTP install?

Please and thanks,

P.
Standard User threelegs
(member) Sat 04-Mar-23 18:49:41
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that is indeed fttp equipment. the box at the left on top of the pole with "teats" is what each household gets connected to and the hanging cables supply the box when the fibre network is all connected together

Edited by threelegs (Sat 04-Mar-23 18:51:14)

Standard User Peterdevon
(newbie) Sat 04-Mar-23 19:19:49
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Looks like Oen Reach CBT the alt nets I have seen use the HT aerial fibre nodes


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Standard User burble
(experienced) Sat 04-Mar-23 21:35:46
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As others have said, the CBT's are OR, the photo isn't clear, but cable will have a yellow stripe, next will be the yellow "Caution Overhead Fibre" label nailed to pole.
Standard User Skie
(newbie) Sat 04-Mar-23 23:09:14
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The one on the left of the pole with the white bracket looks like a netomnia box, they've added them around here alongside the OR ones that arent on white brackets. On the bundled cable, or at the bottom of the pole, there might be a label that contains the work order number and more details about who it's for.

They generally don't leave a bundle of fibre hanging there without something to say who owns it so that when the next group of contractors rock up to complete the work they don't mistakenly hook one providers fibre into someone else's network laugh

You can check local works via https://bidb.uk/ too. It will probably contain a few pole replacements and/or blockage clearances.

Edited by Skie (Sat 04-Mar-23 23:16:41)

Standard User burble
(experienced) Sun 05-Mar-23 17:26:01
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In reply to a post by burble:
As others have said, the CBT's are OR, the photo isn't clear, but cable will have a yellow stripe, next will be the yellow "Caution Overhead Fibre" label nailed to pole.


Just noticed today, our pole was replaced a few weeks back, the new pole doesn't have a "Caution Overhead Fibre" yellow label, "we're all doomed" (said in best private Frazier accent)
Standard User GonePostal
(experienced) Sun 05-Mar-23 17:55:37
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In reply to a post by burble:
In reply to a post by burble:
As others have said, the CBT's are OR, the photo isn't clear, but cable will have a yellow stripe, next will be the yellow "Caution Overhead Fibre" label nailed to pole.


Just noticed today, our pole was replaced a few weeks back, the new pole doesn't have a "Caution Overhead Fibre" yellow label, "we're all doomed" (said in best private Frazier accent)


I didn't know that "we're all doomed" was part of the local Seattle vernacular. It was part of the vocabulary of Pte. Frazer (played by John Laurie) in Dad's Army.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 10-Mar-23 11:58:20
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I had to post similar question, surprised is no blogs or articles showing people what the FTTP pole stuff looks like, as when I googled I only found generic images used on news articles.

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Standard User PineappleSorbet
(newbie) Fri 10-Mar-23 23:51:57
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Just a bit of a bizarre situation as the Openreach team replied to an e-mail stating our postcode was not in any roll-out plan, and this is the same as the check on the Openreach website.

Sorry, not sure how to reply to more than one user - it's not Netomnia either. Their website shows they have no presence in our County at all.

Openreach's techs haven't returned - it's been over a fortnight and the cables/fibres are still dangling loosely off the poles.
Standard User witchunt
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 11-Mar-23 10:08:02
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Small fttp projects are not part of the wider openreach build program, particularly but not exclusively where there maybe external funding.
Not saying this is an example of such though.
Standard User kitcat
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 11-Mar-23 13:40:57
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Pineapple
Are you in Scotland?

R100 contracts do not show on the OR site until live. Same can also apply for other non OR driven deployments.
Standard User burble
(experienced) Sat 11-Mar-23 20:20:51
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In reply to a post by PineappleSorbet:
Just a bit of a bizarre situation as the Openreach team replied to an e-mail stating our postcode was not in any roll-out plan, and this is the same as the check on the Openreach website.

Sorry, not sure how to reply to more than one user - it's not Netomnia either. Their website shows they have no presence in our County at all.

Openreach's techs haven't returned - it's been over a fortnight and the cables/fibres are still dangling loosely off the poles.

Long story short, some years back BT and BDUK said we where not getting FTTP despite a surveyor telling gf it was coming, then they said the (clearly visible) infrastructure wasn't anything to do with them and didn't exist, a few weeks later FTTP was available
Standard User PaulSmith
(learned) Sun 12-Mar-23 16:35:08
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Not sure where you are but maybe check if 'IX Wireless' or '6G Internet' (as they also call themselves) are in your area. They are a controversial company and in Bolton where they have deployed, that is what I have seen but on new poles they have put up.
Standard User Derpy
(learned) Mon 13-Mar-23 02:11:50
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In reply to a post by kitcat:
R100 contracts do not show on the OR site until live.


They can and do show as they did for me. The OR site had me listed as in plans and the R100 had an approx month date.
Standard User PineappleSorbet
(newbie) Tue 21-Mar-23 19:39:35
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In Worcestershire.

Interestingly, it's still the same - no contractors have returned to complete the work.
Standard User PineappleSorbet
(newbie) Wed 12-Jul-23 14:48:53
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We're now a few months later and no one is claiming responsibility/ownership - I was getting my hopes up for nothing.

I'm presuming there's some significant cost involved - if not for the fibre (?) but for the labour and getting the stuff on the poles. Just been ditched.
Standard User hunnymonster
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 12-Jul-23 15:16:04
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If it is any consolation - here an altnet came around, laid their fibres through the Openreach ducts, connected all that wanted to be connected and left. Hot on their heels were Openreach's contractor (KNCircet) pulling in their cables. 15 months on those Openreach fibres are still unused.
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