Customer Lead in tube

Hi,

As i wait for OR to wind its way up the main road and finally add the splitter to the 2 year old cbt [sorry i'm that peeved about what happened]. A question about the customer lead in tube.

Basically can it support both the fibre cable and the original copper cable as i will need both for a short time?

In reply to a post by Taras:

A question about the customer lead in tube.

Basically can it support both the fibre cable and the original copper cable as i will need both for a short time?

Depends

When you say tube do you mean duct? if so what size duct do you have? do you share it with a neighbouring property? what size is the existing copper cable? is there just the one copper cable currently?

open reach customer lead in kit

which i believe is now use in fttp installs..

Basically my plan was for the existing hole that was made for the copper cable to be used and the nte5 moved from the wall. so that once the line has had the vdsl terminated along with the copper based voice part i only have one hole and the ont left.

i thought i'd ask now so a) i have a plan ready and b) hopefully not curse the whole thing already.

In reply to a post by Taras:

open reach customer lead in kit

which i believe is now use in fttp installs..

Basically my plan was for the existing hole that was made for the copper cable to be used and the nte5 moved from the wall. so that once the line has had the vdsl terminated along with the copper based voice part i only have one hole and the ont left.

Thanks for explaining more, thats a questions for those on here doing this type of work day to day.

Edit: worth adding the internal diameter of that is 6mm and the fibre will be at least 2.9mm

Edited by deleted (Mon 27-Mar-23 10:39:43)

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by Taras:

open reach customer lead in kit

which i believe is now use in fttp installs..

Basically my plan was for the existing hole that was made for the copper cable to be used and the nte5 moved from the wall. so that once the line has had the vdsl terminated along with the copper based voice part i only have one hole and the ont left.

Thanks for explaining more, thats a questions for those on here doing this type of work day to day.

Edit: worth adding the internal diameter of that is 6mm and the fibre will be at least 2.9mm

No problem, Dect!. yeah the copper part is not explained in various or youtube installs. Given the phone number will be ported to voip, you can see why i want a neat solution, and in theory there isn't a need for a second hole.

In reply to a post by Taras:

Hi,

As i wait for OR to wind its way up the main road and finally add the splitter to the 2 year old cbt [sorry i'm that peeved about what happened]. A question about the customer lead in tube.

Basically can it support both the fibre cable and the original copper cable as i will need both for a short time?

These lead in kits are optional and not required, don't be surprised if the engineer doesn't have or install one.

Your copper line will automatically be cut off once the FTTP job is closed. This normally happens within a few hours too and then the number port will take place after that. The engineer or your provider won't be able to change this either, so don't ask for it to be left on for a few days as you'll only be met with disappointment.

To be honest i would just forget about the existing copper line and simply replace the copper with the fibre through the same hole if that is what you want, nice and neat and done in one go. If you are just doing a simple upgrade with all services from the same provider and not voice with one provider and broadband with another, then i'd expect the above to happen.

i will be porting the number to voip (another provider) after fttp is installed. Hence the Q.

IF, the lead in kit is used, the hole diameter required is 12mm.

As I understand it, they are a fairly rare commodity these days.

You need to make it explicitly clear to the installer that you are retaining the copper service. (Don’t bother with the how long’s, etc etc.) These installs are all about speed, and retention of the existing copper is just more time required, hence the reply earlier implying that you might as well just not bother.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

IF, the lead in kit is used, the hole diameter required is 12mm.

As I understand it, they are a fairly rare commodity these days.

You need to make it explicitly clear to the installer that you are retaining the copper service. (Don’t bother with the how long’s, etc etc.) These installs are all about speed, and retention of the existing copper is just more time required, hence the reply earlier implying that you might as well just not bother.

despite the drop wire being a probably 20m if that. basically across lane and down the side of the house. I wanted to see what was doable now and just get the job done as quickly as poss.

i basically want to be left long term with one hole and one ont lol

In reply to a post by Taras:

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

IF, the lead in kit is used, the hole diameter required is 12mm.

As I understand it, they are a fairly rare commodity these days.

You need to make it explicitly clear to the installer that you are retaining the copper service. (Don’t bother with the how long’s, etc etc.) These installs are all about speed, and retention of the existing copper is just more time required, hence the reply earlier implying that you might as well just not bother.

despite the drop wire being a probably 20m if that. basically across lane and down the side of the house. I wanted to see what was doable now and just get the job done as quickly as poss.

i basically want to be left long term with one hole and one ont lol

As you aren't having a standard upgrade all with the same provider, ask the installer to leave the existing copper dropwire up and fit a new fibre cable to your property, this should also mean you'll require a new fixing to your property for the fibre cable, as the copper and fibre cables shouldn't be connected to the same fixing at the property end.

Ask them to use the existing hole the copper cable uses to enter your property and if required make that hole larger so both cables can enter through the same entry point. All perfectly possible to do, but just be aware that some of the newer engineers aren't trained in copper, only fibre so they might need to call for assistance from another engineer etc.