Switch from Openreach (fibre) leased line to 'normal' FTTP?

Hello,

I recently moved into a house where there was previously a Openreach leased line of some sort (I have ONEA and Fibre node routing numbers). When I contact any broadband providers about getting a fibre connection they all say there is none available to my address. Is there any way I can get the existing line (which I assume is now disconnected) switched to be a 'normal' FTTP connection - or does anyone have a phone number I can contact at Openreach to see what they can do?

Thanks,
Peter

In reply to a post by pc2319:

I recently moved into a house where there was previously a Openreach leased line of some sort (I have ONEA and Fibre node routing numbers). When I contact any broadband providers about getting a fibre connection they all say there is none available to my address. Is there any way I can get the existing line (which I assume is now disconnected) switched to be a 'normal' FTTP connection - or does anyone have a phone number I can contact at Openreach to see what they can do?

I think it's unlikely you can convert it.. either way you'd need to place an order and maybe speak to the installer when they come out (or survey which they might but probably won't). You can't contact OR about this and I don't think it's worth the effort to try via an ISP.

In reply to a post by pc2319:

Hello,

I recently moved into a house where there was previously a Openreach leased line of some sort (I have ONEA and Fibre node routing numbers). When I contact any broadband providers about getting a fibre connection they all say there is none available to my address. Is there any way I can get the existing line (which I assume is now disconnected) switched to be a 'normal' FTTP connection - or does anyone have a phone number I can contact at Openreach to see what they can do?

Thanks,
Peter

The reverse is possible - up to a point - that is using infrastructure in the street installed for Openreach FTTP to deliver an EAD. I’m using this at a particular place, but not as @seb has noted the other way around.

FTTP uses a number of network components that aren't part of the leased line network, in particular the splitter node , but also CBT's. If these FTTP network components have not been built to cover your address then you will not be able to get a native FTTP service.
It is possible to use parts of the FTTP network to provide a lease line by effectively bypassing the splitter node and using the fibres and a CBT port . For addresses without native FTTP the leased line will be provided using legacy network and nodes.

EAD availability or presence has no bearing at all on FTTP availability. The most influence it could have is proving that a route exists so keeping the costs of something like FTTPoD or another provider using PIA under control.

In reply to a post by jpm:

EAD availability or presence has no bearing at all on FTTP availability

That's the correct answer. You cannot "convert" a leased line to FTTP.

The best you can do is to reactivate the leased line, and be confident that there won't be any ECCs and it will be pretty quick. But it will also be expensive - see here from 2020, and pricing has gone up since then.

Otherwise, just like everywhere else in the country, FTTP comes when it comes. Or you could pay £8,000+VAT or more for FTTPoD - and it could still take a year or more to deliver. There's no guarantee that the planned FTTP topology for your area follows any of the routing of your ceased leased line.

Thank you for all of the insightful responses. I think I've learned more from this thread today than in countless hours I've spent online trying to research this by myself.

From checking SamKnows my local comms box has BT FTTC only. Openreach say they're planning FTTP in the coming 3 years. CountyBroadband (countybroadband.co.uk) has recently rolled out 1Gbps fibre in the area but not to my street and they don't seem to know if my street will be connected in the foreseeable future - communication is generally incredibly slow (months to respond) with them.

Giganet offer 1GBps a connection at £13500 for 3 years. Quite a kick in the teeth but at least I can do my job with it. Might FTTPoD be cheaper than this? How can I go about getting a quote or time estimate for it?

Thanks again!

Inspector Clouseau sends his regards 😎

You can kick off the FoD process with someone like Cerberus Networks. The links are on their site. Good luck 👍

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